What's the word for that throaty noise Daffy Duck makes when he shakes
his head in confusion?  I'm doing that.

Actually, your note helps lots.  I see now that it was folly to expect
IPNOTINMX to work with local users.

RECOMMENDATION:
When IPNOTINMX is officially adopted and added to the documentation, I
humbly recommed a brief clarifying paragraph:  "Expect mail from local
IMail users to fail the IPNOTINMX test.  In these transactions, the
sending computer is typically a workstation -- not a mail server -- and,
consequently, should not be expected to have a corresponding MX
record."  ...or some such thing.

Thank you so much for all of your help.  Glad to know nothin's broke.

Dave

"R. Scott Perry" wrote:
> 
> >So, IPNOTINMX compares the MX IP against the SENDER (workstation) IP?
> >Not the SENDING MAIL SERVER'S IP?
> 
> The "remote computer" or "sending server" or "workstation" or "remote
> mailserver" are all terms for the same thing -- whatever IP address
> connects to IMail and wants to send mail.  Neither IMail nor Declude knows
> or cares whether the IP connecting to it is a workstation or a server.
> 
> >To pass this test, wouldn't this require that the sender be seated at
> >the mail server?  When would there otherwise be an MX record matching
> >the sender?  I don't get it.
> 
> What most people don't grasp initially is that E-mail is two ways, but both
> ways work the same.  My E-mail client connects to our mailserver in exactly
> the same way that my mailserver connects to your mailserver.  Your
> mailserver will both accept incoming E-mail, as well as incoming+outgoing
> E-mail from your users.
> 
> The IPNOTINMX test is only relevant when mail is being sent to your
> mailserver from somewhere other than one of your users.  It is not relevant
> when your users are sending mail.
> 
> So yes, in order to pass this test, a local user would have to be seated at
> the mailserver (actually, they couldn't even pass it then, as the IP
> address would be 127.0.0.1, but that's a different story).  But, they
> aren't expected to pass the test.
> 
> When I send you E-mail, though, your mailserver will see our mailserver's
> IP (66.189.58.123), which is in our MX record.  Therefore, my mail won't
> fail the IPNOTINMX test, and with the default settings my E-mail will have
> its weight lowered by 4 points for that.
> 
> To really grasp the power of this test, you need to realize that most of
> the worst spammers (adult spammers, scams, etc.) will use a random return
> address (or one on your domain).  They then connect to a random mailserver
> to send their E-mail.  Because of that, their E-mail will rarely pass this
> test.
>                                         -Scott
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