They belong on the same list as Citicorp & its subsidiaries. George
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Sanford Whiteman Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 2:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Pots & Kettles in the Clair de Lune All, A noteworthy encounter with the officious admin of a combination draconian/broken server. I think my state of mind will be picked up pretty quickly from the following snippet. IPs and hosts changed to protect the not-so-innocent--including us, since I did screw up, too, but STILL... >> ...our firewall does a reverse lookup. mail.clientco.com resolves >> as 1.1.1.1...Since these two IP addresses do not match, our >> firewall rejects the connection... > > This strict constraint is certainly not evident from the 421 message > returned by your server. > > Moreover, your own mail servers do not meet this requirement! Your > mail server at 2.2.2.2 uses EHLO text-- > > EHLO [3.3.3.3] > > --a violation of your own requirement, since the PTR, ptr.draco.com, > does not even have an A record at all. If ClientCo employed your > policy, *they* would reject *your* mail! > > This EHLO is also a violation of RFC 2821, which states that an > address literal is only allowed if a host has no name (3.3.3.3 does > have a PTR record, and therefore does have a name), and a violation > of the common test to see if EHLO and PTR match (since a PTR cannot, > by definition, resolve to an address literal). > > Though I appreciate the anti-spam utility of deeply verifying EHLO > arguments, returning a 4xx code rather than a 5xx undermines any > "educational" utility, wasting everybody's bandwidth and delaying > issue resolution. And if you should have occasion to review this > policy in the future, I do hope you consider that your own systems > violate it. :) > > Sincerely yours, > > Sandy -Sandy ------------------------------------ Sanford Whiteman, Chief Technologist Broadleaf Systems, a division of Cypress Integrated Systems, Inc. e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------------ --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.