Scott,

As well it should say that! Anyone that would do anything other than
ignore the spews db is out of their minds.

In this case they have been irresponsible. The domain that "supposedly"
sent spam is not and has never been hosted here.

Furthermore, the inability to be removed and statements like this ( Q11
of their FAQ):

Q11: I'm a spammer and I'm listed in SPEWS, I want out! Will you do it?

A11: Sorry, SPEWS is a list of known spammers, spamming operations and
spam supporters, if you fit the criteria there's a good chance you will
be listed and stay listed. If you are a spammer, may we suggest you get
a real job?  

Spews is a joke and should be taken offline.


Respectfully,

Phillip B. Holmes
Media Resolutions Inc.
Macromedia Alliance Partner
http://www.mediares.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry
Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 12:09 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Comments



>Anyone else out there ever have an issue with spews.org irresponsibly 
>reporting servers?

No.

But, they will intentionally blacklist IPs that are "near" a spammer.

>They have blacklisted one of my boxes and for a domain we do not even 
>host. There is not a way to get off their list and their site is quite 
>flippant.
>
>I can't imagine anyone who could take spews.org seriously.
>
>Advice? Comments?

If you check, you'll see that they didn't blacklist the IP of your 
mailserver.  Instead, there is a "nearby" spammer that they have 
blacklisted, and they have included your IP in their range.  Their
thought 
is that you are going to complain to your ISP, who will terminate the 
spammer.  But it just doesn't work that way in reality.

This is why we have "Warning: Lists a number of legitimate mailservers
that 
happen to have the same Class C address space as spammers." in our 
description at http://www.declude.com/junkmail/support/ip4r.htm .

Anyone who blocks E-mail based on Spews is choosing to block legitimate
E-mail.
                                 -Scott

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