Several porn spammers are also using them. They claim that they are using
verified opt-in lists, however we have seen several reports from customers
that claim they never opted-in for any adult oriented material, however may
have for other things. They are apparently buying their "opt-in" lists from
other sources. We have one knowledgable customer that said his wife signed up
for some TV shopping network newsletter, and within a week started getting
adult messages marked with the Habeas headers.

I have had several conversations with the Habeas people. While they claim they
will go after violators of the Habeas copyright, I still have not figured out
how they will stop spammers that buy what they claim to be legitimate opt-in
lists. 

Here's the biggest problem with Habeas. Once the mark is abused,
administrators will stop whitelisting it. They are not going to wait until the
legal staff at Habeas is able to stop the use of the mark by a particular
spammer. That could take months or longer. This will make Habeas completely
ineffective almost overnight.

One thing they could do is to add an additional header and force their
licensees to use it. It would classify the source as being the original opt-in
list owner, or a "business partner", meaning someone who bought or rented the
list. At least this would help to identify the sender as being the source that
you contacted rather then someone who you didn't.

Actually, my opinion is that this concept will flame out long before it is
ever determined to be useful.




 
On 03/25/03 9:37am you wrote...
>If anyone is using the Habeas headers whitelist option you should be aware
>that topica.com is sending their messages with habeas headers. We have them
>blacklisted but since the whitelisting overrides everything, their messages
>were getting through.
>
>Greg
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