The whitelist entry could be any suitable address... some whitelist
postmaster, others might whiltelise sales@ or info@ in order not to miss
potential new clients... Ours is not to ask why, but to create tools
that make sense to those who use them. ;-)

_M

>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee
>Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 12:04 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] whitelist and mult rcpt
>
>
>Why would you white list the postmaster anyway, only 1 of 
>about 1000 emails to my postmaster account is legitimate. Same 
>for abuse.
>
>
>Madscientist wrote:
>>Most valid messages to postmaster, for example, only have 
>postmaster as 
>>the recipient.
>----
>
>When ever I notify a domain of a poorly configured server or a 
>server in spam databases. I send the message to abuse, 
>postmaster, domain billing, and domain admin email addresses. 
>I find I mostly ger responses from the domain billing email address.
>
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Karen Oland
>> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 6:49 AM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] whitelist and mult rcpt
>>
>>
>> YES. This would solve the problem we are having (although 
>not perhaps 
>> everyone's problems <g>).  None of these messsages were only to the 
>> postmaster.  They all came either with two names in the TO line or 
>> with a CC that included the postmaster.
>>
>> Karen
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of 
>Madscientist
>> > Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 8:49 AM
>> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] whitelist and mult rcpt
>> >
>> >
>> > In the interim, a less complex method might be to have a setting 
>> > which will ignore a white list entry for an address if 
>more than one 
>> > recipient is specified. This might take the form of a special kind 
>> > of whitelist entry. Most valid messages to postmaster, for 
>example, 
>> > only have postmaster as the recipient. I know this would be less 
>> > complicated than splitting up the messages.
>> >
>> > I wonder if there is a clean way to intercept message retreival or 
>> > final delivery (better) with a program like a "second pass" of 
>> > Declude or another utility like Message Sniffer. I'm not close 
>> > enough to the guts of IMail to know if this is practical, but it 
>> > might significantly simplify this problem.
>> >
>> > Any ideas Scott?
>> >
>> > _M
>> >
>> > ]-----Original Message-----
>> > ]From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > ][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of 
>Karen Oland
>> > ]Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 12:57 AM
>> > ]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > ]Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] whitelist and mult rcpt
>> > ]
>> > ]
>> > ]We've been getting a lot of spam in the last week or so that 
>> > ]bypasses all ]our spam filters -- they are all copied to the 
>> > postmaster@ ]account for our
>> > ]domain.  Apparently, they are taking advantage of the common
>> > ]practice of
>> > ]whitelisting the postmaster and the inability of spam
>> > ]filtering programs to
>> > ]separate actions on messages sent to multiple users.  No
>> > ]doubt, it won't be
>> > ]long before most messages do the same, rendering both 
>your postmaster
>> > ]account and spam filters useless.
>> > ]
>> > ]I know it has been asked for before and said to be
>> > ]"impossible" (programmer
>> > ]speak, for don't want to do it -- I know, being one), but
>> > ]PLEASE consider
>> > ]creating multiple copies of messages that arrive for multiple
>> > ]recipients, so
>> > ]that the spam filters can operate (yes, this means some
>> > ]complications, but a
>> > ]little trickery could reduce problems -- for example, only
>> > ]making a copy for
>> > ]the recipient(s) that are whitelisted).
>> > ]
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