Since John does not want to plug the software.. Let me do it.

If you really want to help the false positives.. Seriously look into
AutoWhitelist.

It is a common sense program that works great.  Simply as people send each
other email their email is recorded and negatively factored in the final
weight.

The more they email to each other the less likelihood they have to get
trapped.  We have almost gotten rid of our FPs.

Lets just hope John adds a global whitelist.. If one person is talking to a
client then others should also be as easily get an email from that client-
regardless of their level of communication with him/her.

I think the same approach as Declude would be great.. Global or local
option.  I know if we had the global option I would simply make one huge
global database.

Oh well.. Just thought to drop my suggestion one more time :)

Regards,
Kami

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff
(Lists)
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 12:37 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] yahoo as spam


Catching almost no FP with holding at 10? I don't think so. 

Anything coming from Yahoo.com will then automatically be at half of your
hold weight.

This is a known problem with Yahoo.

Couple of recommendations. 
Change your weighting setup.
Setup a white filter.
User another external program to help whitelist. (Sorry, cheap plug.) Adjust
your weights. Setup a grey filter. Etc.

Also, SpamCop has been discussed a couple of times in IMO does not warrant a
HOLD.

Personally, I do not use FIVTENSCR.

John Tolmachoff MCSE CSSA
Engineer/Consultant
eServices For You
www.eservicesforyou.com


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of andyb
> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 10:16 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] yahoo as spam
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have a customer, she is sending email from her yahoo account to 
> > her
> email
> > address here.  It is being caught as spam, as per included log 
> > entries.
> >
> > Good ole yahoo, not RFC compliant as the postmaster and abuse email 
> > addresses.
> >
> > I have also included my config files.  This config has worked very 
> > well
in
> > the past, almost no false positives and catching approx 85% of all 
> > spam. Comments for improvement, please.
> >
> > Thanks, Andy
> >
> >
> > 06/02/2003 05:51:08 Q1e0a290 FIVETENSRC:5 NOPOSTMASTER:3
> NOABUSE:2 .
> Total
> > weight = 10
> > 06/02/2003 05:51:08 Q1e0a290 Msg failed FIVETENSRC 
> > (184.129.136.216.blackholes.five-ten-sg.com.). Action=IGNORE. 
> > 06/02/2003 05:51:08 Q1e0a290 Msg failed NOPOSTMASTER (Not supporting 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]). Action=IGNORE. 06/02/2003 05:51:08 Q1e0a290 Msg 
> > failed NOABUSE (Not supporting [EMAIL PROTECTED]). Action=IGNORE.
> > 06/02/2003 05:51:08 Q1e0a290 Msg failed WEIGHT10 (Weight of 10 reaches
or
> > exceeds the limit of 10.). Action=HOLD.
> > 06/02/2003 05:51:08 Q1e0a290 Subject: Fwd: RE: Ed Tech Day / Joyce 
> > Carol Oates 06/02/2003 05:51:08 Q1e0a290 From: 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> > $default$.junkmail
> >
> > BLACKLIST         DELETE
> > OSDUL           HOLD
> > OSSOFT          HOLD
> > ORDB            HOLD
> > SPAMCOP         HOLD
> > ZONEIN          HOLD
> > MAILFROM        HOLD
> > SPAMROUTING     HOLD
> > PERCENT         HOLD
> > WEIGHT10        HOLD
> >
> > # Global.cfg:   Declude JunkMail configuration file
> >
> > CODE  XXXXXXX
> >
> > LOGFILE         D:\Imail\spool\spam####.log
> > LOGLEVEL        MID
> > LOG_OK          NONE
> > HOP             0
> >
> > DNS             216.153.138.61
> >
> > CONSOLE OFF
> > IPBYPASS        216.153.138.61  # NS1_Thumper
> >
> > XSENDER         ON
> > XSPOOLNAME      ON
> > XINHEADER       X-Note: Checked for SPAM and Viruses by Thumpernet -
> > http://www.thumpernet.com
> > XINHEADER X-note: Total spam weight of the emai is %WEIGHT%
> > XOUTHEADER      X-Note: Please send abuse reports to
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > BLACKLIST      fromfile   d:\imail\declude\blacklist.txt
> >
> > OSRELAY         ip4r    relays.osirusoft.com            127.0.0.2
2
> > 0
> > OSDUL           ip4r    relays.osirusoft.com            127.0.0.3
> > OSSRC           ip4r    relays.osirusoft.com            127.0.0.4 5 0
> > OSSOFT          ip4r    relays.osirusoft.com            127.0.0.6
> > OSLIST          ip4r    relays.osirusoft.com            127.0.0.7
3
> > 0
> > SPAMCOP  ip4r     bl.spamcop.net   127.0.0.2
> >
> > FIVETENSRC      ip4r    blackholes.five-ten-sg.com      127.0.0.2
5
> > 0
> > FIVETENDUL      ip4r    blackholes.five-ten-sg.com      127.0.0.3
5
> > 0
> > FIVETENOPTIN    ip4r    blackholes.five-ten-sg.com      127.0.0.4
3
> > 0
> > FIVETENOTHER    ip4r    blackholes.five-ten-sg.com      127.0.0.5
5
> > 0
> >
> > DSN             rhsbl   dsn.rfc-ignorant.org            127.0.0.2
2
> > 0
> > NOPOSTMASTER    rhsbl   postmaster.rfc-ignorant.org     127.0.0.3
3
> > 0
> > NOABUSE         rhsbl   abuse.rfc-ignorant.org          127.0.0.4
2
> > 0
> >
> > MAILFROM        envfrom
> > BADHEADERS      badheaders      x       x       4       0
> > SPAMHEADERS     spamheaders     x       x       4       0
> > SPAMROUTING     spamrouting
> > HEUR10          heuristics      10      x       5       0
> > PERCENT         percent
> >
> > WEIGHT10        weight          x       x       10      0
> >
> > WHITELIST FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > WHITELIST FROM @MAILER-DAEMONitrogen.packetcity.com
> > WHITELIST  TO [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > WHITELIST TO [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > WHITELIST       IP      216.153.138.    # Anything from our address
space
> > WHITELIST FROM    @go2france.com
> > WHITELIST       FROM    @mail.go2france.com
> > WHITELIST       FROM    @list.ipswitch.com
> > WHITELIST       FROM    @declude.com
> > WHITELIST       FROM    @signup.universalstudios.com   #For JGL 1/4/02
> > WHITELIST FROM @listserv.usairways.com   #For Rita 1/4/02
> > WHITELIST FROM    @centro.org   #for [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1/7/02
> > WHITELIST FROM @upstate.edu   #for lisa b 2/5/02
> > WHITELIST FROM @listsrv02.usairways.com
> > WHITELIST FROM @registrars.com
> > WHITELIST FROM @hammond-irving.com  #reported to spamcop
> > WHITELIST FROM @hillside.com   #Peg 02/12/02
> > WHITELIST FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED] #Peg 02/22/02 WHITELIST FROM 
> > @youngliving.com  #Peg 02/27/02
> > WHITELIST FROM @irco.com   #Peg 03/06/02
> > WHITELIST FROM @TerritoryMortgage.com  #Peg 04/04/02 WHITELIST FROM 
> > @territoryloan.com  #Peg 05/30/02
> > WHITELIST FROM @skf.com   #Peg 06/12/02
> > WHITELIST FROM @paypal.com   #Peg 07/10/02
> > WHITELIST FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]  #Peg 08/08/02
> > WHITELIST  FROM @usa.redcross.org  #Peg 08/19/02
> > WHITELIST FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]  #Peg 09/19/02 WHITELIST FROM 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]  #for k O'Hara 1/6/03
> >
> >
> 
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