How are queue management and statistical content filtering even remotely
related to each other?  Name some other mail servers that you know combine
these processes.

How is it that you can speak so authoritatively about this subject?   Unless
you tell me that you consulted with IPSwitch on this product, or that you
were a design engineer for them, your response is again all so much hokum
and mere unsubstantiated mumbo jumbo.

Bill
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From: "Sanford Whiteman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Bill Landry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 12:30 AM
Subject: Re[4]: [Declude.JunkMail] Test on Imail X-header


> > All so much hokum.
>
> Not  hokum  to  a  commercial developer. Let's see: you've already (1)
> greatly  enhanced  interoperability  with  third-party applications in
> your  new  version  and  (2)  greatly  enhanced the performance of the
> underlying   platform,   thus  making  the  combination  of  your  new
> version+third-party  software much more appealing. So do you then (3a)
> develop and test another new system service, make sure to parameterize
> everything  under  the  sun, and slow processing; or (3b) get the d**n
> thing  out the door before your competitors eat away your market share
> with their integrated anti-spam?
>
> On  a  specific  technical  level,  if you're suggesting that separate
> services  be used for content scanning and delivery, right away you're
> talking  about  doubling the disk I/O load even without Declude, since
> the  file  would  then  have  to  be read and written by two different
> processes,  as  well  as  IPC  overhead. That's not something any sane
> developer would embark on under deadline: "Hey, boss, give us a couple
> of  weeks  to  make  it slower." Yep, there are elegant solutions that
> could  work  around  the  extra  resource  usage  when  Declude wasn't
> installed,  but at the expense of more development time basically sunk
> into  somebody  else's  product,  with only break-even performance for
> yourself.
>
> > a hard-coded split in the spam processing
>
> There's  no  hard-coded  split  if  you  use IMail alone, which is the
> by-design  deployment  method  for  IMail anti-spam. IMail's anti-spam
> implementation depends on IMail's rules engine for postprocessing, and
> as  such  has  no  reason  to  be more open to third parties. What you
> suggest  would  be  nice,  sure,  but  Ipswitch is under no ethical or
> licensing  obligation  to let third parties use their anti-spam logic,
> especially not if it costs them development and QA time.
>
> In  either  case,  with  all  the complaints people have had about the
> insufficiency  of  the  IMail  anti-spam  implementation  (no envelope
> rejection,  etc.),  don't you think it would make a bit more sense for
> them  to  start  by  making  *their own* part of the equation optimal,
> instead  of  spending time "opening" their insufficient existing code?
> First  things  first: the major problem with IMail anti-spam isn't the
> process  flow for content scanning, it's the process flow for envelope
> scanning.  After  *that's* fixed, worry about where the SendName comes
> into the overall process flow. :)
>
> -Sandy
>
>
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> Broadleaf Systems, a division of
> Cypress Integrated Systems, Inc.
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