Hello, Todd,
The short answer to this question is I have "per domain" "hold weights"
ranging from as low as 5 and as high as 13.

The long answer is as follows...

We have around 100 E-Mail Sites on our IMail Server.  We are using "per
domain" filtering and have currently set up DJM Pro for 5 sites.  The hold
weight for each site is mostly dependent upon 2 factors.  These 2 factors
are "importance of any delays in receiving e-mail" (if we have to release
something that was blocked as a false positive) Vs. "importance of
eliminating as much spam as possible".  If "delays" are more important to
you the "hold weight" will probably be higher.  If elimnating as much spam
as possible is more important then the "hold weight" will be lower.

For our in-house domains it is very important that we receive every
legitimate e-mail so our current "hold weight" is 13.  This lets in more
spam than I would necessarily like but I've never seen a piece of legit
e-mail over that threshold.  13 is currently the highest "hold weight" we
have in play on any of our domains.

On the other hand we have one customer who is being inundated with spam and
has asked us to drop the "hold weight" as low as I think I can reasonably
get it.  This client has a "hold weight" of 5.  There have been a few pieces
of legit e-mail which came through higher than that but I'll usually catch
those within a day and release them and will also adjust the filters to make
sure e-mail from that domain name has enough subtracted from the weight to
make sure it passes through the next time.  5 is currently the lowest "hold
weight" we have in play on any of our domains.

We are using all of the default weighting which comes with DJM when you
first download it.

My current plan with any new domains I'll be setting up is to do a COPYTO
for 2 days on that domain to a temp e-mail address that I have set up.  For
each domain that I am currently analyzing, every e-mail I receive at that
address I route in to one of 3 folders, "Not Spam", "Maybe (Not) Spam)" and
"Spam".  Each folder represent a striation of the weighting scale with no
overlap.  The weight range for each folder might look something like "Not
Spam" -> -21 to 05, "Maybe (Not) Spam" -> 06 to 09 and "Spam" -> 10 and Up.

I analyze all of the e-mail sent to the temp address and see if I can route
it to these folders.

Messages which are definitely not spam go into the "Not Spam" folder, except
if it's weight is higher than my current highest weight for the "Spam"
folder, in this example 5.  If higher then it goes into "Maybe (Not) Spam".

Messages which are definitely spam go into the "Spam" folder, except if it's
weight is lower than my lowest current weight for the "Not Spam" folder, in
this example 10.  If lower then it goes into "Maybe (Not) Spam".

If I'm lucky and I've guessed right then I'll have very few e-mail messages
in the "Maybe (Not) Spam" folder.

If I'm not lucky then there'll be lots of messages in the "Maybe (Not) Spam"
folder and I'll have to analyze them closely and try to adjust the lowest
weight of my "Spam" folder down.  By analyzing the "Maybe (Not) Spam" folder
I can try and lower my lowest "Spam" weight and eventually come upon a good
"hold weight".

Anything left in the "Maybe (Not) Spam" folder has the option to have an
exception made for it somewhere in the DJM settings.

I realize the way I'm doing it intially is very convuluted but I think there
might be a seed of a good algorithm in there if I could just express it
elegantly.

After I've established an initial good "hold weight" for a domain, then I
continue to analyze the types of e-mail that are making it under the "hold
weight".  I then have the option of lowering the "hold weight" with further
analysis (and make exceptions) for any False Positives which might be caught
by the new lowered "hold weight" or by leaving the "hold weight" as is and
with further analysis to try and make exceptions and add weight on to any
real Spam which are making it under the "hold weight".

Generally speaking there might be too many False Positives created by
lowering the "hold weight" further or there might be too many exceptions for
real Spam which need to be made by leaving the "hold weight" as is but I can
usually find one or the other which requires less maintenance on my part.

That was a long answer to a very short question but I though I'd float some
of my methods out there for further feedback.

Take Care,
Dan

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Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] HOLD Weight


> I was wondering what everyone that HOLDs by Weight is using for a value to
> hold at.
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> We only HOLD by Weight, not buy individual test, currently we are set to
> HOLD at 12.
>
> The config files are mostly default with a couple minor changes, I think I
> bumped the value for Badheaders just bit.
>
> Todd
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