FYI, looks like Joe Jared (of Osirusoft) is finally hanging it up.

Bill
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "James Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 4:07 PM
Subject: RE: [SAtalk] OSIRUSOFT -- should they be used any more?


> Update OSIRUSOFT issue:
>
> I decided to go ahead and call Joe Jared since now our primary mail server
> is now listed as well and I can't get mail to him.
>
> ################
>  ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>     (reason: 553 5.3.0 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...  Mail from nitwit spammer
> 198.83.204.156 refused see
> http://relays.osirusoft.com/cgi-bin/rbcheck.cgi?addr=198.83.204.156)
>
>    ----- Transcript of session follows -----
> ... while talking to relays.osirusoft.com.:
> >>> MAIL From:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> SIZE=1524
> <<< 553 5.3.0 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...  Mail from nitwit spammer
> 198.83.204.156 refused see
> http://relays.osirusoft.com/cgi-bin/rbcheck.cgi?addr=198.83.204.156
> 501 5.6.0 Data format error
> ####################
>
> I find this quite silly, I scanned our mail logs and I can say with
> certainty that spam is/has not been coming from our site.
>
> Anyway, when I called Mr. Jared, he stated that everyone needs to stop
using
> Osirusoft and that he's going to be shutting the service down.  And I got
> the impression that he's soon going to get his point across by
blacklisting
> the world.
>
> I'm not alone in this problem, a check on google groups will tell all.
>
>
http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&safe=off&fra
>
me=right&th=b43eeebc8f1bd08c&seekm=3LN2b.9658%24Ly2.1506055%40cletus.bright.
> net#link1
>
> > If you are using osirusoft to pull the Spamhaus SBL, and announcement
was
> > made by Steve Linford to stop using Osirusoft several weeks ago."
>
> SpamAssassin is used by thousands of admins and the use of Osirusoft needs
> to be reconsidered, especially with a new release coming out soon.  I
would
> appreciate any comments about this.
>
>
> Regards,
> Jim
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of James
> Miller
> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 4:33 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [SAtalk] OSIRUSOFT -- should they be used any more?
>
>
> With all the trouble OSIRUSOFT is having, is it time to stop using them?
>
> As of 12:40 this afternoon our mail server stopped accepting mail from our
> main web server because it was listed on osirusoft.  How I don't know
since
> it doesn't run an SMTP server -- it's protected by a dmz firewall which
> allows 80-443 in, smtp 25 to our internal mail server and >1024 out to the
> world, it's completely upto date, runs Norton virus scanner and tcpdump
over
> 3 hrs only shows it sending messages to our internal mail server.  It's
hard
> coded to send billing, cancellation, reactivation messages to exactly one
> mail server on the inside of our firewall.
>
> news.admin.net-abuse.email is filled with messages/complains about them
from
> companies complaining that Joe Jared (founder of osirusoft and spews)
isn't
> responding to request to find out why their listed and how to get off the
> list.
>
> Also, it seems they are facing several law suites from several large
> corporation.
>
> And to add to it, they are (have been since Friday) under a DDoS attack,
> their web site is down, mail is not flowing to them (because of the attack
I
> assume) and I don't know what to do to get us off the list before our
class
> 'C' networks get added short of calling him or sending a fax.  But I've
been
> told that he will permanently black list anyone who calls or faxes him
> directly.
>
> I have complete removed all osirusoft check in SA and Sendmail.  It may be
> time to completely remove them from SA all together.
>
>
> Regards,
> Jim
>
>
>
>
> James Miller, MCSE
> Network Administrator
> Simutronics Corporation
> www.play.net
> 636.946.4263 x113
>
>
>
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