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Browsing for low total weights through the 638 messages which triggered CBL so far today I'm not seeing any obvious errors, mostly very high total weights.
 
Two that I've definitely seen before were mail servers for comcast.net and bizmailsrvs.net (Verizon - no angel), which were tested as open relays and found to be closed by other ip4r services.
 
... and hey, I'm not disagreeing, just sharing my own experience.  To heck with YMMV, your mileage WILL vary!
 
Andrew 8)
-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Bramble [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 2:55 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Understanding Return Codes

Well, if no one every disagreed with me, I wouldn't learn nearly as much.

I watched this for a full week recently and didn't find any problems.  The site says that it is only spamtraps and they expire automatically, but keep alive for longer in association with repeat spamming.

I've seen that many take recently active and subscribed accounts and turn them into spamtraps, which will produce FP's on things like Yahoo, PayPal, Ebay, etc.  I was expecting to find some of that with CBL but to my amazement, didn't.  Maybe they get some regional FP's that I just don't see.

Could you describe the types of FP's that you've seen with CBL.  Exact names of sites aren't that important if you can't remember, but the types of things that are being falsely tagged there would be helpful.

Thanks,

Matt

Colbeck, Andrew wrote:
(sigh) Again I'm the voice of dissent... I find that CBL merits no higher than a weight of 5 out of my HOLD weight of 20.  I find that it includes a lot of ISP mail servers that get used by spammers.  They do seem to work at removing them, but meanwhile, it's throwing the baby out with the bath water.  I'm sure glad that Declude gives me a weighted system to work with.
 
Andrew 8)
-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Bramble [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 9:23 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Understanding Return Codes

Maybe it was just down on the day I tested it...

I like pure spamtrap RBL's because clean ones have no false positives.  CBL is a good one to add if you haven't checked it out, and it produces a lot of hits (with no FP's in a week of monitoring).



Bill Landry wrote:
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Matthew Bramble" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

  
Maybe other "unlisted" entries reflect similar circumstances
(not available under normal circumstances)?
    

All of the DNSBLs (ip4r) and RHSBLs listed on the Declude spam databases
site (http://www.declude.com/Junkmail/support/ip4r.htm) are publicly
accessible, unless it has been noted otherwise in the comments (e.g., MAPS
tests).  The "SBBL" spam database can be access by using:

    SBBL    ip4r    sbbl.they.com    *    3    0

So far today I have flagged over 900 messages as spam using the SBBL test.

Bill
  

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