RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Happy days are here again...

[Todd Holt]

So, ICANN comes up with a figure that is equal to the cost of maintaining the internet for a year and each registrar pays a percentage of that figure based on the percentage of all registrations that they manage?   If this is true, then… The wildcard in effect makes them customers of the registrant…by registering each of the 40,000,000,000+ domains.  This would make the total number of registered of domains increase to a staggering number.  And VeriSlime would be managing 99.999999999…% of those domains.  They would effectively pay the entire bill for running the internet!  I like it!!! J   But…another question… Why should we pay a fixed amount each year to the registrants if they don’t pay a fixed amount?  This sounds pretty hokey to me!  (No offense to VTech fans!)  I thought that a fixed amount of our payments were going to the internet infrastructure improvements.  Silly me!   Todd Holt Xidix Technologies, Inc Las Vegas, NV  USA www.xidix.com 702.319.4349   -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Bramble Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 3:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Happy days are here again...   ICANN is just there to oversee the workings of the industry and they're not in it for profit.  They charge registrars a fee based on the percentage of the number of registrations they are responsible for, and the total collected from all registrars is a number related only to organizational costs. VeriSign pays something like and additional $250,000 a year to ICANN for maintaining the .com and .net registries, however they collect $6 for each .com and .net domain name registered for their operating costs (and profit).  While technically they pay themselves this $6 figure for registrations, it is only on paper for accounting purposes and no money changes hands (assuming that they track the transactions). Matt Todd Holt wrote: So they don't have to pay for all registrations?  I don't understand this.   Todd Holt Xidix Technologies, Inc Las Vegas, NV  USA www.xidix.com 702.319.4349         -----Original Message-----From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Matthew BrambleSent: Friday, October 03, 2003 2:54 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Happy days are here again... Todd Holt wrote:     IMHO, ICANN should send a bill to VeriSlime for the registration of      all  combinations which could be caught by the wildcard.  Does anyone knowthe maximum length of a domain name, how many different characters      can  be used in a domain name (a-z,A-Z,0-9,_,-,...), how many .com and      .net  domain names are currently registered and how much VeriSlime pays foreach domain registration?       I believe that since something like 256 characters are now allowed indomain names, 64 different standard characters allowed, and since    there  are around 40 million .com and .net addresses currently registered,    that  would equate to (2 x 64^256) - 40,000,000, or approximately...      270,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,00  0,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,  000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,00  0,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,  000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,00  0,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,  000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,00  0,000,000,000,000,000,,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000  ,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,0  00,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 This doesn't include the high-bit characters though :) BTW, payments to ICANN are only proportional to total registrations,    and  totals less than $3 million a year across 100% of registrations.  So    in  effect, this would cost them little extra if they were to be charged. Matt