I truly think they do this to keep the smaller players looking bad to their customers. "If you can't get mail to AOL, what kind of mail server are you running? Come to AOL where the mail always gets to AOL!"
Now that is monopolistic! Todd Holt Xidix Technologies, Inc Las Vegas, NV USA www.xidix.com 702.319.4349 > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hosting Support > Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 4:42 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] RR.COM > > AOL's official policy is just that reverse DNS has to exist, but we did > recently experience (about three weeks ago) them blocking mail from us if > reverse DNS didn't match the reported server name. > > Darin. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Matthew Bramble" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 6:39 PM > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] RR.COM > > > Scott, > > Your HELO (nerosoft.com) doesn't match your reverse DNS domain > (mail.netbound.com). This could be the result of some idiot at AOL > rejecting your E-mail based on those things not matching. > > The switch should be easy enough to test out this theory. Try changing > your domain in IMail to netbound.com for just a second and see what > happens. The reverse DNS change just takes a bit longer to propagate, > though that might be a good idea to do for the long-term. Generally > speaking, reverse DNS is used for E-mail filtering and nothing else of > importance, so choose to match mail over all other things. > > Please let the list know if this works, though I'm just stabbing in the > dark of course. I've seen places as large as GM block on just reverse > DNS alone, which is pretty stupid in my book, and that warning from > AOL's HELO has been there for months at least, and shows that they have > at least considered this idiotic move. > > Matt > > > > Scott MacLean wrote: > > > Does anyone know how to expedite getting removed from > > AOL/Netscape/Compuserve's IP spam list? I have no idea how we got > > there, but they have been blocking mail from every domain on my server > > for almost two weeks now. I can guarantee we've never sent any spam > > their way, or any way, for that matter. Attempting to send email to > > any of those domains ends up with this result: > > > > 20031216 000133 127.0.0.1 SMTP (0384324F) Trying aol.com (0) > > 20031216 000133 127.0.0.1 SMTP (0384324F) Connect aol.com > > [205.188.156.154:25] (1) > > 20031216 000133 127.0.0.1 SMTP (0384324F) 554-(RLY:B2) The > > information presently available to AOL indicates this > > 20031216 000133 127.0.0.1 SMTP (0384324F) 554-server is > > transmitting unsolicited e-mail to AOL. Based on AOL's > > 20031216 000133 127.0.0.1 SMTP (0384324F) 554-Unsolicited Bulk > > E-mail policy at http://www.aol.com/info/bulkemail.html > > 20031216 000133 127.0.0.1 SMTP (0384324F) 554-AOL cannot accept > > further e-mail transactions from this server. > > 20031216 000133 127.0.0.1 SMTP (0384324F) 554-Please have your > > ISP/ASP or server admin call AOL at 1-888-212-5537, > > 20031216 000133 127.0.0.1 SMTP (0384324F) 554 or visit > > http://postmaster.info.aol.com <http://postmaster.info.aol.com/> for > > more information. > > 20031216 000133 127.0.0.1 SMTP (0384324F) SMTP_DELIV_FAILED > > > > They don't even give us a chance - we connect, and they dump us > instantly. > > > > Calling them at that number gives you not much more than a promise > > that "they'll look into it and get back to you", i.e. they won't > > bother and will never call you back. The postmaster web site doesn't > > help much. > > > > I'm at a bit of a loss. > > > > Hmmm. I just did a test from my mail server. I did a manual telnet to > > a few different AOL listed MX servers on port 25, and got this: > > > > 220-rly-ya02.mx.aol.com ESMTP mail_relay_in-ya2.4; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 > > 17:55:45 -0500 > > 220-America Online (AOL) and its affiliated companies do not > > 220- authorize the use of its proprietary computers and computer > > 220- networks to accept, transmit, or distribute unsolicited bulk > > 220- e-mail sent from the internet. Effective immediately: AOL > > 220- may no longer accept connections from IP addresses which > > 220 have no reverse-DNS (PTR record) assigned. > > > > I was able to do a manual HELO, RCPT FROM, MAIL TO, DATA and > > successfully send an email. The server has only one IP bound, so it > > can't be because it's using a different IP address. What gives? > > > > At 04:31 PM 12/16/2003, Bill wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> FYI, rr.com has finally removed my IP from their spammer list as of > >> today. It took 4 requests dating back to 11/18. I only knew we were > no > >> longer being blocked because one of my customers told me a message got > >> through. My log file from today verified this to be true. I never did > >> receive and messages from them other than the auto-responses. > >> > >> Bill > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Morgan > >> Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 11:49 AM > >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] RR.COM > >> > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> We are having a problem sending e-mail to any user at rr.com. Our > >> messages are refused as spam. I have checked all of the databases that > >> they say they use and we are not listed in any of them. Over the last > >> three weeks, I have sent several messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> (the address that they say to use for problems like this) but have only > >> gotten automated responses confirming receipt of the message. > >> > >> Has anyone else had a problem with rr.com? If so, how did you resolve > >> it? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Bill > > > > > --- > [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus > (http://www.declude.com)] > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > _____________________________________ > [This E-mail virus scanned by 4C Web] > > > --- > [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus > (http://www.declude.com)] > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. 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