Hi,

I assume that Form Mail's are a big problem under SPF?  If a web site
(greeting card site) inserts the users email address as the "from" address,
then it will fail SPF, correct?  

Or, if we host a web site for a client, the "registrations" or "feedback"
form mailers email the input to the client using the "from" address of the
web visitor (otherwise, clients tend to press the reply button and end up
sending their acknowledgements to our mail server, rather than to the
visitor).  These emails will fail SPF, because the web visitors domain will
not list our web server as a valid sender!?

In other words, in real life, SPF is best use to subtract weight for "PASS",
rather than add (any substantial) weight for "FAIL"?  It has to be treated
like the "SPAMDOMAINS" test - except that the entries are maintained by the
owner of each domain and thus are more likely to be accurate.  But we can't
reach block based on SPF failures without ignoring the reality of the www?

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

H&M Systems Software, Inc.
600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203
Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:    +1 201 934-9206

http://www.HM-Software.com/


-----Original Message-----
From: Andy Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 05:20 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF caught SPAM already


Wow,

With only a few hundred domains registered, what were the chances that it
would already catch spam:

12/18/2003 16:32:17 Q1cd609ef0252d469 DSBL:5 SPAMCOP:7 NJABLDUL:4
SORBS-DUL:5 CBL:7 SPFFAIL:8 .  Total weight = 36. 12/18/2003 16:32:17
Q1cd609ef0252d469 Bypassing whitelisting of E-mail with weight >=20 (36) and
at least 1 recipients (1). ... 12/18/2003 16:32:18 Q1cd609ef0252d469 Msg
failed SPFFAIL (SPF returned FAIL for this E-mail.). Action=IGNORE. ...
12/18/2003 16:32:18 Q1cd609ef0252d469 Deleting spam from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
to ... 
12/18/2003 16:32:18 Q1cd609ef0252d469 Subject:
=?iso-8859-1?b?QWRkIEluY2hlcyB3aXRoIHRoZSBwYXRjaA==?=


Best Regards
Andy 

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