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Matt> I would love to have a list of ISP mail servers so that I could
Matt> add a few points to them by default because you have to rely
Matt> mostly on content to find the spam that comes from them.

To revive an old thread that you were in, I meant to comment on SPF a while
back, but couldn't spare the time...

I believe that SPF will be a welcome addition to my toolbag, while not being
a burden for ISPs.  My reason being that the ISPs that choose to implement
it to describe their outbound mail hosts are deliberately taking on the
responsibility for helping 3rd party mail admins like me block spam from
their broadband and dial-up networks.

So to them, reports of spam from their netblocks, or through their own mail
hosts by a subscriber, are not a burden at all, just part of their
responsibility.  That's an ISP I'd be happy to deal with.

An ISP like that could go on to earn a gold star from me by also giving
those non-corporate clients a revdns name that is separate from their mail
hosts, or for that matter any of their servers, so I could block all mail
directly from them.

Then I'd need a foolproof way to catch zombies from that ISP who are sending
through somebody else's mail server...

As a consumer, I'd be pretty happy if my ISP went the extra mile to firewall
off my PC from sending/accepting SMTP except to their mailservers, unless I
also have the technical acumen to go to a self-serve web page to list the
traffic which I personally aver is non-hostile.  Because really, if I need
that traffic, I've got the technical acumen.

But I don't make the rules.

So there's my 2 cents to end the week.

Andrew 8)
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