That is not the phishing link that is a reale link to paypal

Kevin Bilbee

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andy Schmidt
> Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 8:06 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] New Phishing Scam
>
>
> Nope,
>
> The original link still works:
> http://www.paypal.com/verification/%?6488820019=20
>
>
> Best Regards
> Andy Schmidt
>
> Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
> Fax:    +1 201 934-9206
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee
> Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 11:13 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] New Phishing Scam
>
>
> The site is finally non-responsive.
>
>
> Kevin Bilbee
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rick Klinge
> > Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 5:11 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] New Phishing Scam
> >
> >
> > I thought about that earlier too.. But then I soon realized.. They are
> > not that swift.
> >
> > ~Rick
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt
> > Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 7:00 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] New Phishing Scam
> >
> >
> > Of course - it could be that law enforcement asked them to MAINTAIN
> > the site so that they can collect evidence.
> >
> >
> > Best Regards
> > Andy Schmidt
> >
> > Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
> > Fax:    +1 201 934-9206
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox
> > Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 01:04 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] New Phishing Scam
> >
> >
> > Well...I called in to join the fight...but checked the site while I
> > was on hold and it looks like they've finally taken it down...so I
> > hung up.
> >
> > Darin.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Kevin Bilbee
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 12:56 PM
> > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] New Phishing Scam
> >
> >
> > I just got off the phone with them and they said their manager is
> > working on it.
> >
> > How many people can we get to start calling in about 15 minutes?????
> >
> > So, Matt I see you have called multiple times. On my last call they
> > asked if I was Matt or Kevin.
> >
> >
> > Kevin
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee
> > Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 9:42 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] New Phishing Scam
> >
> >
> > I am on the phione with them now. I suggest we all call and take up
> > all of their tech supoport lines until the site is down. I have all
> > day.
> >
> > I reported this to them 24hours a go then reported it to the list.
> >
> > >From my conversation last night with the SS Etask force if they were
> > >open
> > they would be giving them a call also.
> >
> >
> > Kevin Bilbee
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Matt
> > Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 9:29 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] New Phishing Scam
> >
> >
> > The damn site is still up...24 hours later and these people haven't
> > pulled the site.  I just called their sales line and asked that they
> > find someone at a higher level to direct this to.  It's beyond me how
> > these people can pull up the address in a Web browser and still not
> > get that there is a problem.
> >
> > And for the sake of Internet archiving, let me just state for the
> > benefit of others, A+Net, a.k.a. Abacus America Inc of San Diego, CA,
> > who's Web site is
> > located at aplus.net, has shown themselves incapable of taking
> appropriate
> > action on one of the most common Internet scams despite numerous reports
> > over a 24 hour period.  One can only conclude that this is the
> > typical level
> > of response that they give to all support issues, and one
> should take note
> > of this before considering their services.  Other companies,
> > including ones
> > as large and complex as Akamai, have resolved issues within
> > minutes of being
> > reported, as they clearly understood the immediacy of the issue at hand.
> >
> > Matt
> >
> >
> >
> > Kevin Bilbee wrote:
> >
> > Use matts 888-301-2516 number instead. Make them pay for the call I
> > kept them on the phone for 30 minutes.
> >
> > Kevin Bilbee
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee
> > Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 12:17 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] New Phishing Scam
> >
> >
> > Yes, I sent to abuse and support as per their tech support.
> >
> > I just got off the phone with them. They are still disinterested in
> > shutting down the site.
> >
> >
> > I have been doing some research on a place to report these issues and
> > actualy have someone care. This is what I found
> >
> > Electronic Crimes Task Force
> > http://www.ectaskforce.org/regional_locations.htm
> >
> >
> > This is the Secret Service of the United States. I just spoke with
> > them and they handle these issues. When calling just ask for the duty
> > officer.
> >
> > Of course they will not be available for until Tuesday.
> >
> >
> > So the more people we get to call
> > OrgTechName:   A Net Support
> > OrgTechPhone:  +1-858-410-6900
> > OrgTechEmail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > the quicker we can get the site shutdown.
> >
> >
> > Kevin Bilbee
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rick Klinge
> > Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 11:38 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] New Phishing Scam
> >
> >
> > Pretty wild for sure.. Anyone send it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ?
> >
> > ~Rick
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt
> > Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 1:09 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] New Phishing Scam
> >
> >
> > I can't believe that this site hasn't been pulled yet.  I called the
> > company just now and showed them the site.  Phone calls typically get
> > a faster response.  We'll see.
> >
> > Matt
> >
> >
> > Colbeck, Andrew wrote:
> >
> > Very convincing; in the HTML view of the message Kevin sent, you can
> > see the IP address of the real destination, which is of course not
> > PayPal.  The website there uses all of PayPal's actual images and
> > HTTPS
> >
> > links and forms
> >
> > to provide the user experience.... except the sucker enters
> >
> > their username
> >
> > and password into a form on the bogus site, which then sends the data
> > to PayPal.
> >
> > Andrew ;)
> >
> > p.s. When I discover these, I report them to [EMAIL PROTECTED]; they
> > want the message forwarded to them, not as an attachment.  So if you
> > do
> >
> > that, make
> >
> > sure that you paste in the full headers.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kevin Bilbee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 2:55 PM
> > To: JunkMail Declude
> > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] New Phishing Scam
> >
> >
> > Here is a new phishing scam. I reported it to the hosting company and
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] The wesite is still live.
> >
> > Kevin Bilbee
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 2:38 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: [ SPAM 9 ]Account verification.
> >
> >
> > Dear PayPal user,
> > As part of our continuing commitment to protect your account and to
> > reduce the instance of fraud on our website, we are undertaking a
> > period review of our member accounts. You are requested to visit our
> > site by following the link given below.
> > http://www.paypal.com/verification/%?6488820019=20
> > Please fill in the required information. This is required for us to
> > continue to offer
> > you a safe and risk free environment to send and receive money online,
> > and maintain the PayPal Experience.
> > Thank you.
> > Accounts Management As outlined in our User Agreement, PayPal will
> > periodically
> > send you information about site changes and enhancements.
> > Visit our Privacy Policy and User Agreement if you have any questions.
> > Copyright 2003 PayPal.
> > All Rights Reserved. Designated trademarks and brands are the
> >
> > property of
> >
> > their respective owners.
> >
> >
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