Good point, Matt.

I think I implemented this before SpamHaus had made some of their
description more explicit, or more likely, I was just obtuse.

My interpretation of their description had led me to believe that the
sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org domain was a "join" on the two dnsbl databases, **
which is wrong **, and I didn't want that anyway, because I wanted to score
the two results differently.

On going back to the website, I find that they have also incorporated
blitzed.opm.org which is also good news, and I'm sure counts in large part
to the success of my XBL-DYNA test; it also means that I was making 3 dnsbl
lookups where one would have sufficed!

To cover the XBL and BLITZED tests, they supply 3 different answers
(127.0.0.4, 127.0.0.5, 127.0.0.6) I haven't seen any documentation on what
information SpamHaus is conveying with these 3 values ... in 3 hours of
testing, I haven't had any hits that returned 127.0.0.5

The reason I was using BLITZEDALL is that a given IP address can appear with
multiple values, with each representing the kind of trojan/zombie for which
it tested positive.  But I only wanted to score once per test per IP.

Blah blah blah...

So that I can still score SBL as high as I prefer, and still score XBL
lower, I now have something like this:

SBL        ip4r    sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org        127.0.0.2    12    0
XBL        ip4r    sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org        *             8    0

Each hit will be counted by SBL and XBL, which still achieves SBL scoring
20, and XBL scoring only 8, but is misleading because when you get a hit on
XBL, it might not have been a zombie, but a SBL spammer.

So, that cuts 3 dnsbl lookups down to 1, but with some loss of accuracy in
why an IP is in XBL; that may be over-optimizing for some people.

Andrew 8)

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Andrew,

You can save an extra lookup by using the combined address:

XBL        ip4r    sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org        127.0.0.4     8    0
SBL        ip4r    sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org        127.0.0.2    20    0

Declude will only do one lookup per unique address/DNSBL and then apply 
the result codes to all associated tests.  Both tests can return a hit 
for the same IP under this arrangement.

Note that the impact of this one change is fairly minor, but with a lot 
of minor changes, I have managed to get another half cup of juice out of 
my current server.

Matt




Colbeck, Andrew wrote:

>Hey, Kevin.
>
>I do get the usual web page when I go to the CBL homepage you listed.  I
see
>that the last update was March-30-2004 when they stated that they had
>harvested out a lot of their old records.
>
>I stopped using CBL on Jan-05-2004, though, because the SpamHaus XBL is a
>superset of CBL, e.g.:
>
>XBL-DYNA  ip4r  xbl.spamhaus.org  *  8  0
>
>XBL-DYNA  WARN
>
>
>Andrew 8)
>
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>
>http://cbl.abuseat.org/lookup.cgi?ip=24.234.0.78
>
>
>Is CBL still working??? When I try to go to http://cbl.abuseat.org/ it get
a
>page can not be displayed message/cannnot find server error message????
>
>
>Kevin Bilbee
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