Scott,

I do not use sniffer, so I cannot use exactly what you have here. Any
thoughts what other test to use?

In your scoring system a weight of 24 is what portion of your
tag/hold/delete weight.

Your mailfrom-null-sender filter will assign 24 points regardless. Then
if it also fails the sniffer-combo test it will get another 120 points.
So one e-mail could get 24+120 points (+1 if mailer-deamon@). Right?

If I understood this correctly then for the simple NDRs it will add 24
points and for SPAM with NullMailFrom it will add 144 points. This
cannot distinguish between valid NDRs and NDRs generated by spoofed
sender SPAM. So going back to my original desire to weed out "bad" NDRs
from "good" NDRs this will not do it. Right?

Sorry its late and I am sort of rambling.

 
     Goran Jovanovic
     The LAN Shoppe

 
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> Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 7:14 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Null Sender and NDRs
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> If a message fails sniffer and has a mailfrom of <>, I give it
additional
> points:
> 
> mailfrom-null-sender.txt:
> MAILFROM      24      CONTAINS        <>
> MAILFROM      1       STARTSWITH      MAILER-DAEMON@
> 
> Sniffer-combo.txt:
> TESTSFAILED   END     CONTAINS        SNIFFER-NOTFOUND
> TESTSFAILED   END     CONTAINS        SNIFFER-GREYMAIL
> TESTSFAILED   0       CONTAINS        SNIFFER-TRAVEL
> TESTSFAILED   0       CONTAINS        SNIFFER-INSURANCE
> TESTSFAILED   0       CONTAINS        SNIFFER-AV-PUSH
> TESTSFAILED   0       CONTAINS        SNIFFER-WAREZ
> TESTSFAILED   0       CONTAINS        SNIFFER-SPAMWARE
> TESTSFAILED   0       CONTAINS        SNIFFER-SNAKEOIL
> TESTSFAILED   0       CONTAINS        SNIFFER-SCAMS
> TESTSFAILED   0       CONTAINS        SNIFFER-PORN
> TESTSFAILED   0       CONTAINS        SNIFFER-MALWARE
> TESTSFAILED   0       CONTAINS        SNIFFER-ADVERTISING
> TESTSFAILED   0       CONTAINS        SNIFFER-SCHEMES
> TESTSFAILED   0       CONTAINS        SNIFFER-CREDIT
> TESTSFAILED   0       CONTAINS        SNIFFER-GAMBLING
> TESTSFAILED   0       CONTAINS        SNIFFER-OBFUSCATION
> TESTSFAILED   0       CONTAINS        SNIFFER-EXPERIMENTAL
> TESTSFAILED   0       CONTAINS        SNIFFER-GENERAL
> 
> combo-nulll-sniffer.txt:
> TESTSFAILED   END     NOTCONTAINS     SNIFFER-COMBO
> TESTSFAILED   120     CONTAINS        MAILFROM-NULL-SENDER
> 
> 
> Scott Fisher
> Director of IT
> Farm Progress Companies
> 
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/15/04 05:34PM >>>
> 
> 
> 
> 
>      Goran Jovanovic
>      The LAN Shoppe
> One of my clients is getting hammered big time with NULL MAILFROM.
They
> are all NDRs from all over the place. Yesterday 56% of his mail was
NDRs
> 
> Total Messages: 3009
> 
> TEST                     # FAILED   Percentage
> NULLMAILFROM.................1680.......55.83%
> 
> I had originally thought that punishing NULL senders would help with
> some SPAM messages that I saw coming in but how can you deal with
this?
> 
> I would want to let legitimate NDRs in but not these
> 
> The NDRs are bouncing back to users like [EMAIL PROTECTED] and other
such
> fictitious addresses. This domain is not a local IMail domain but
rather
> a gateway domain so I have no way of checking against a userlist.
> 
> Any thoughts?
> 
> Thanx
> 
> Goran
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