Re: CBL:RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude and Ipswitch ICS

[Matt]

As far as a new mail server platform goes, it will be necessary for us to have something that allows you to block all non-AUTH connections and only allow specific IP addresses.  We need to make sure that spammers don't bypass the gateway and do direct delivery.  IMail is currently incapable of this without a product like Declude to run cleanup.  IMail can't be stopped from accepting any locally addressed E-mail. It also seems that in order to keep our customers protected, it will be necessary to have virus scanning on the actual mail server and not the gateway, or at least not just the gateway. I'm confident that Postfix and Sendmail can do that, but I'm not clear on what Windows-based servers might allow for turning off unauthorized SMTP connections to hosted addresses.  Having real port 587 functionality for AUTH-only and blocking port 25 connections at the router would be suitable, but it seems that while everyone is rushing to support SPF, no one (mail server companies) seems to care about port 587 AUTH-only which, IMO, is more important to push at this stage. Matt Kevin Bilbee wrote: There may not be show stopper bug right now but what if a vunrability is discovered. IPSwitch will not necessarly create the patch for an older version. They may say update to ICS it does not have the vunrability??? I do not expect all IMail installations to dump IMail because of this but many of us will not renew our service agreements by being forced to upgrade. And when time comes for new features like port 587 or SPF support. Current imail admins will look for other mail server software at a more reasonable price. This is a shock to us all and in many opinions bad business on IPSwitches part. Kevin Bilbee -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bud Durland Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 11:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CBL:RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude and Ipswitch ICS Markus Gufler wrote: So you're recommendation for the moment is to keep on IMail until you're ready with something else? That's really the most common sense approach, isn't it? There's been an almost hysterical reaction to the ICS announcement. People have right to be angry & disappointed over it; but traffic on he iMail list almost seems like a knee-jerk reaction: "Good lord that's a lot of money -- I'm buying something else right now". If GM decided to only make Cadillacs, does that mean your Chevy is suddenly un-drivable? Your exiting iMail installation isn't going to stop working just because your service agreement ran out. I mean, are there really any "show stopper" bugs in iMail right now? Of course, we have a poly-chromatic equine if you are (or will be) in the market for additional server licenses. In that case, it would be prudent to look at some competitor's offerings (Verio, Merak, others). Maybe you'll even find one you like better than iMail. As for losing Declude, that's not really an issue. Even if Computerized Horizons takes 6 months to come out with an iMail independent Declude version (which I am certain they are working on), you could still use a small server running the iMail 8.xx & declude that you already own as an SMTP relay for all the new boxes. Regards; -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Diagonally parked in a parallel universe. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Bud Durland, CNE Mold-Rite Plastics Network Administrator http://www.mrpcap.com ------------------------------------------------------------------- --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus / Sophos AV] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. -- ===================================================== MailPure custom filters for Declude JunkMail Pro. http://www.mailpure.com/software/ =====================================================