Kim,

Declude's MAILFROM variable matches the Mail From that is given in the SMTP envelope and not necessarily the address contained in the From header. All of the permutations that you gave are likely to have a Mail From/MAILFROM of <>. So the correct format of your filter line would be as follows:

   MAILFROM 0 CONTAINS <>

Keep in mind that if you indiscriminately block this address, you will also be blocking legitimate NDR's. Unfortunately there is no easy answer to the problem.

On my system, I 'combo' the null sender address with things that are capable of recording spam hits on content and I add a bunch of extra points when found. Sniffer is an excellent tool for this. Most of these Joe-Jobs are being sent to random addresses that won't correspond to an account, but there appears to be a spammer that is now using real addresses repeatedly, resulting in a prolonged deluge of NDR's from spam that goes to a specific account. Because not all NDR's will return the original content, it is impossible to block all of these, and as a result the only possible solution is to block all NDR's for those specific accounts.

For now, the strategy of specifying the accounts to block NDR's is enough on my system, but short of that, there is no solution that would otherwise maintain the ability to legitimately bounce messages.

Someone needs to create a new RFC for properly bouncing E-mail with the full original content (unless it is due to excessive size).

Matt





Kim Premuda wrote:

We are receiving thousands of NDR messaages daily due to some spammer forging 
his message headers with our mail server name and IP address, 
'ns3.fastwave.net' and '[207.212.80.137]' (below - note, it is not an IMail 
header):

  Received: (from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) by mailgate3.nec.co.jp 
(8.11.7/3.7W-MAILGATE-NEC)
        id iABBF0N18133 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 11 Nov 2004 20:15:00 +0900 
(JST)
  Received: from no-wucking-furries.com ([211.223.136.240])
        by TYO205.gate.nec.co.jp (8.11.7/3.7W01080315) with SMTP id iABBEtF01977
        for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 11 Nov 2004 20:14:56 +0900 (JST)
  Received: from fastwave.net (ns3.fastwave.net [207.212.80.137])
        by no-wucking-furries.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2C16DA045
        for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 11 Nov 2004 05:13:08 -0600


Our customers who are targeted to receive the NDRs are complaining, and my first attempt at writing a JunkMail filter to (temporarily, at least) trap these NDRs has failed (it doesn't seem to be working). I want to trap on the 'From:' line, since that seems to be the most commom element in all the NDRs:

  From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mail Delivery System)
  From: Mail Administrator <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  etc.

So, I created a filter called JOEJOBNDR that contains the following:

  MAILFROM      0       CONTAINS        MAILER-DAEMON
  MAILFROM      0       CONTAINS        postmaster
  MAILFROM      0       CONTAINS        Barracuda Spam Firewall
  MAILFROM      0       CONTAINS        mailmaster
  MAILFROM      0       CONTAINS        automated-response

with the 'global.cfg' and '$default$.junkmail' files containing (respectively):

  JOEJOBNDR  filter  C:\IMail\Declude\Filters\JoeJob.txt  x  25  0

  JOEJOBNDR  WARN

Can someone tell me why the filter is not working? Also, I am open to any other 
methods or suggestions for getting the job done.

Thanks in advance,

Kim Premuda
FastWave
San Diego, CA


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