I use, recommend, support, sell (Sniffer) both Message Sniffer and
SpamCheck. 

Message Sniffer is subscription based and includes updated rule bases.
Updates are generally 3-4 a day.

SpamCheck is free, and is configuration file based. What SpamCheck does
amoung others is check a lot of body coding and such and in doing so not as
resource intensive as body filters in Declude.

Both are valuable tools for Declude.

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Ulrich
> Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 10:03 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Question on SortMonster/MessageSniffer
> 
> It looks like it scores pretty well...
> 
> http://www2.spamchk.com/public.html
> 
> That said, and I'm embarrassed to ask two questions in one day, but what
> experiences have people had with
> SpamChk as well?  Are people running the "stable version" (dated 7/29/03)
> or the "beta" (dated 1/31/04)
> 
> Doesn't seen to be updated often... is it an issue?  Good solid
> results?  Any thoughts?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> 
> At 12:57 PM 12/13/2004, you wrote:
> >Hi Chris,
> >
> >I suspect that you'll find that many of the Declude users are this list
are
> >also using MessageSniffer.  We only recently began using it and can tell
you
> >that we saw a dramatic increase in spam catches when we did so.
> >
> >If you look in your global.cfg file, you'll see there is already a line
for
> >MessageSniffer that is commented out.  When you purchase MessageSniffer
you
> >remove the # and put in your pattern file name and registration key.
> >
> >I'll leave the other answers to more knowledgable folks and just say that
we
> >have been quite please with the results we've seen since we began to use
> >MessageSniffer.
> >
> >Katie LaSalle-Lowery
> >Centric Internet Services
> >1410 Reserve St.
> >Missoula, MT 59801
> >Local Phone 549-3337 ext. 21
> >Toll Free (888)593-2776 ext. 21
> >Fax (406)721-3438
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Ulrich
> >Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 10:45 AM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Question on SortMonster/MessageSniffer
> >
> >Is anyone using this product as part of their filtering?
> >
> >http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer
> >
> >Any feedback?
> >
> >Does it download "definition updates" or something similar, or is it
purely
> >rules based and the only update would be to the program itself?
> >
> >How would you integrate this in to the config files?
> >
> >Also, I'm putting together a list of common words/phrases found in SPAM
that
> >gets through the current filters.  Up to about 200, yes, there are plenty
> >more.  At what point do you take a "serious" performance hit doing this?
> >
> >I'd post the list of words, but I'd probably score about a 400 on
everyone's
> >filters and you'd never see it anyway!
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >Chris
> >Cydian Technologies
> >
> >
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