Anyone can spam legally under CAN-SPAM, however almost no one follows
the exact letter of the law (for instance adding "ADV" to subject
lines). I'm not sure where federal and state law intersect on this
one, but it would seem to be primarily a federal issue since it
generally involves interstate commerce.
My own personal experience is that the clearly illegal stuff
(forging/zombie spam) that CAN-SPAM definitely targets has grown
immensely in the last year, and their tactics have become effectively
DDOS attacks on mail servers (violating yet other laws). Spamhaus has
pictures of some of these guy's houses even (tape recordings of threats
too), yet all we hear about are these occasional civil lawsuits, and a
smattering of criminal actions while they keep going with impunity.
The RIAA has been more effective at stopping file sharing than the
government has been in stopping spam, and that's not saying much. In
fact the most remarkable thing that the government has done is cave
into industry and draft a law called CAN-SPAM that legalizes half of
it, and supersedes many state laws that went further.
I don't doubt that you were told this however. Spamming AOL without
some form of obfuscation is pretty much going to be useless because
they will get blacklisted rather quickly otherwise.
Matt
Andy Schmidt wrote:
Well, I CAN tell you that I have personal
contacts with Spammers (who keep wanting me to take their business) -
and from casual conversations about the "industry" I know
that several DO clean any AOL mailboxes from their lists before doing
campaigns out of fear of litigation based on VA law.
Best Regards
Andy Schmidt
H&M Systems Software, Inc.
600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203
Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846
Phone: +1 201 934-3414
x20 (Business)
Fax: +1 201 934-9206
http://www.HM-Software.com/
This sounds like an urban legend to me. Keep in mind that there was
some news release a few weeks ago that indicated AOL was seeing
dramatically less spam traffic. I think it is likely that AOL has
succeeded in blocking more spam, and the article was rehashed by
someone that didn't understand the topic and assumed that this meant a
drop in spam. This used to happen all the time, even in industry mags,
back when the Internet was becoming a big deal. Same thing with spam
now. I'm sure that they mess up articles about medicine, astronomy,
etc., and we just don't know enough to see through the mistakes.
Matt
Dan Geiser wrote:
I don't get this article at all. How is this any different then sending
e-mails with using domains that you have no intention of ever using? Why
would you want to register the domain name and then associated yourself with
a domain used in a spam mailing? And from a technical standpoint why would
a distributed DNS system be overloaded by trying to lookup bogus domain
names?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kami Razvan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 2:50 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Interesting tactic..
<http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1749328,00.asp>
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1749328,00.asp\
"One troublesome technique finding favor with spammers involves sending
mass
mailings in the middle of the night from a domain that has not yet been
registered. After the mailings go out, the spammer registers the domain
early the next morning."
Hmmmm
Kami
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