Hi,

Thanks for the explanation to Nick - that makes sense and seems to fit my
issue.

I generally agree that the new function is desirable. Now we just need to
figure out how to implement it "robustly".

E.g., when Declude modifies the "envelope" to the new "route-to" address, it
may have to "remember" that new recipient so that it can reference it in
case it later encounters a DELETE action.

Or, to reverse that logic, let the ROUTETO remember the "new" recipient -
but don't actually update the envelope until Spam processing for that user
is complete.

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

H&M Systems Software, Inc.
600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203
Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:    +1 201 934-9206

http://www.HM-Software.com/


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 04:19 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2.x


Nick,

Prior to 2.0, the DELETE action had the highest priority and affected all 
recipients of a message. Even with per-user settings, if one user triggered 
the DELETE action, the email was deleted for everyone.

A change was made in 2.0 to allow for deletions to be made on a per-user 
level: If there are three recipients A, B and C, and at least one of the 
recipients (B, for example) triggers the DELETE action, the envelope is 
modified and the new recipients are A and C. That seems to be working fine. 
The problem arises with DELETE which has been preceded by another action 
that has already modified the recipient. If my per-user cfg indicates that:

WEIGHT10 ROUTETO [EMAIL PROTECTED]
WEIGHT15 DELETE

I expect to re-route email that fails WEIGHT10 but to simply delete email 
when it fails the higher weight because the probability of spam there is 
much higher and I do not want to waste my time checking it. The problem is 
that the WEIGHT10 ROUTETO action removes me as a recipient and replaces me 
with [EMAIL PROTECTED]; when the DELETE action is triggered, it tries to 
delete me as a recipient, but I have already been replaced, so the deletion 
does not occur.

There are several combinations and scenarios that can occur with multiple 
recipients and multiple actions, and we are studying and testing this very 
carefully. There may be other facets of your issue that do not apply here, 
and I will take a very careful look at it.

David

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From: "Nick Hayer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 3:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 2.x


> On 3 Mar 2005 at 15:06, David Franco-Rocha wrote:
> Hi David,
>
> I am having problem with the DELETE action as well; have sent 2 
> support requests - would this issue be related to what you describe 
> below as well?
>
> Thanks
>
> -Nick Hayer
>
>> We wish to let everyone know that through our own testing, support 
>> emails and forum responses, we understand that there is some 
>> confusion over Version 2.x actions with regard to per-user setting 
>> code changes. We are analyzing and evaluating various options and 
>> will soon release procedures to deal with this issue.
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