This is also my experience.  Spam has dropped off radically since
December. 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Fisher
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 11:47 AM
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Subject: Re: Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] Huge reduction in hold queue

My spam numbers peaked in December and the total amount of spam has
declined since.
Overall percentage went from 75% of all e-mail in December to 67% in
March.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Darin Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <Declude.JunkMail@declude.com>
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 10:09 AM
Subject: Re: Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] Huge reduction in hold queue


> Sorry Heinrich....<grin>
>
> Maybe this is just payback for the sudden ~4x increase we saw last
> fall...our levels have now dropped back to what they were prior to
> mid-October.
>
> Darin.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Heinrich Richter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <Declude.JunkMail@declude.com>
> Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 10:57 AM
> Subject: Re: Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] Huge reduction in hold queue
>
>
> Hello Darin,
>
> it seems that i got a lot of the mails you are missing ;-(
>
> Our volume increased about 25% last month and the number of SPAM
increased
> about 64%.
> Our spam detection rate is about 98% and the overall spamrate has
incresed
> from 40% to 50% last month.
>
> Heinrich
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Darin Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <Declude.JunkMail@declude.com>
> Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 4:47 PM
> Subject: Re: Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] Huge reduction in hold queue
>
>
>> Just as a followup, I have confirmed that we have had a 15%+ drop in
>> incoming volume.  If that is mostly spam, then that would indicate
almost
>> a
>> 20% drop in spam.  If most of that is in our hold range (about 40% of
>> incoming spam ends up in our hold queue), then it could account for
half
>> or
>> more of the drop in held spam.
>>
>> Also, we're definitely seeing a significant increase in detection
rates
>> for
>> the tests listed below, so a lot less is ending up in our hold queue,
>> despite raising the delete limit.
>>
>> Anyone else seeing a similar drop in incoming spam and an increase in
>> detection rates for the tests listed below?
>>
>> Darin.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Darin Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: <Declude.JunkMail@declude.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 10:56 AM
>> Subject: Re: Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] Huge reduction in hold queue
>>
>>
>> You know, I think was misleading/inaccurate in how I said it. I
really
>> meant
>> accuracy, not detection rate.  I was thinking detection rate as the 
>> number
>> of messages detected as spam by the test that were actually spam, but
I
>> should have said accuracy.  Sorry for the confusion...language is a
funny
>> thing...
>>
>> These are the best tests we run, in terms of catching the most spam,
but
>> they're not catching at the percentages below.  There are others that
are
>> highly accurate as well, but these catch the most volume.
>>
>> My apologies again for the confusion.
>>
>> Darin.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Pete McNeil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "Darin Cox" <Declude.JunkMail@declude.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 10:36 AM
>> Subject: Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] Huge reduction in hold queue
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, March 31, 2005, 9:50:05 AM, Darin wrote:
>>
>> DC> That is very significant, and could explain what I'm seeing.  I'm
>> going
>> to
>> DC> increase my delete weight a bit for a while to make sure there
are no
>> high
>> DC> FPs.
>>
>> DC> I do see the following detection rates from yesterday (3/30)
>>
>> DC> AHBL   97.4%
>> DC> CBL   99.9%
>> DC> CSMA   97.1%
>> DC> CSMA-SBL   93.4%
>> DC> JAMMDNSBL   76.0%
>> DC> PSBL   96.9%
>> DC> SBL   99.5%
>> DC> SENDERDB-BL   96.4%
>> DC> SNIFFER   98.7%
>> DC> SPAMCOP   99.7%
>> DC> UCEPROTECT1   100%
>> DC> UCEPROTECT2   97.2%
>>
>> DC> rates for all seem to have increased significantly over the past
>> couple
>> of
>> DC> days.
>>
>> WOW! That's weird. I do not show that at all and I've never seen
those
>> tests throw those kinds of numbers (except SNF looks about right):
>>
>> http://www.sortmonster.com/MDLP/MDLP-Example-Short.html
>>
>> For example (a quick spot check) -
>>
>> Data through last noon to midnight--
>>
>> AHBL shows up at about 22% (21.8409)
>> SPAMCOP shows up at about 64% (63.5114)
>> UCEPROTECCMUL sows up at about 42% (41.6237)
>> UCEPROTECRDO shows up at about 48% (48.0324)
>>
>> Long range data through last midnight--
>>
>> AHBL shows up at about 16% (16.111)
>> SPAMCOP shows up at about 62% (62.3942)
>> UCEPROTECCMUL shows up at about 42% (41.7421)
>> UCEPROTECRDO shows up at about 49% (48.6102)
>>
>> All in all these indicate nominal performance.
>>
>> Most likely there is something special about the mix of spam you are
>> getting, something wrong with your reporting process, or something
>> else going on that we haven't thought of.
>>
>> To be thorough I also checked some of the MDLP reports from other
>> systems that are beta testing it. With few exceptions they show
>> numbers similar to mine w/ regard to these tests.
>>
>> If I were you I would not make any substantive changes until I
tracked
>> down what was going on. No need to introduce additional variables by
>> changing things ;-)
>>
>> DC> BTW, I sent to the Junkmail in part so others could comment on
>> DC> other tests that may have significantly changed.
>>
>> It's all good :-)
>>
>> _M
>>
>>
>>
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