RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail crashes after declude 2.0.6

Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:26:28 -0700

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Sorry about not getting back to anyone – some malcontent set up a winmx server in my network!  Anyway the bottom line right now is:

            Declude 1.81                                         -           No problems for about a million years

            Declude 2.0.6                                        -           Imail crashes for two days

            Reinstalled Declude 1.81                        -           No crashes for 1 day

            Installed SP1 with Declude 1.81              -           No crashes for ½ day but it seems to run slower

Any thoughts – we are going to let SP1 run through the night.  If it still seems slow to access mail we will remove SP1 in the A.M. 

 

Thanks,

Scott Powner

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colbeck, Andrew
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 2:19 PM
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Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail crashes after declude 2.0.6

 

Nothing about the service that SP1 installs, but I did I find multiple pages on Microsoft's site about "Application and User Experience", which seems to be their quality and regresssion testing.  They indicate that 3rd party vendors should follow:

 

 

and

 

 

this application testing in order to verify that their applications work correctly with their OS.  There is also a page that lists 120-plus applications that this "Application and User Experience" team tested with Windows Server 2003 SP1, and produced results (including their own software):

 

 

Andrew 8)

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 8:34 AM
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Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail crashes after declude 2.0.6

I don't know if this is of any help here, but two new SP1 features that I don't understand and I fear to some extent are the "Application Experience Lookup Service" and "Data Execution Prevention (DEP)".  It seems like both might represent overhead to things like Declude which are called from a command line along with all of the applications that it calls, and it might not be wise to run them in such an environment.  I haven't tried turning them off yet, but I was just starting the process of researching them.  The "Application Experience Lookup Service" can be turned off in Services, and "Data Execution Prevention (DEP)" is controlled by the boot.ini.  I can't find hardly any information on the "Application Experience Lookup Service", but "Data Execution Prevention (DEP)" has a KB article about it:

    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875352

There is also another level of DCOM security, and this may or may not cause issues with .NET stuff.  I don't know.

I haven't tried upping from Declude 1.82 yet as I wanted to apply SP1 and make sure that it was workable before introducing something else that was new to the environment.

Matt




Erik wrote:

I'll add our point too.  We also are crashing with 2.0.6 (also SP1 installed).  We've put back 1.82 into production.  No issues.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of scott_powner
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 4:35 PM
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Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail crashes after declude 2.0.6

We just put SP1 on this morning but have not had a crash since we went back to 1.81 on Declude.  

Thanks,

Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Gufler Markus
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 8:31 AM
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Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail crashes after declude 2.0.6

I haven't upgraded jet to v2 but can see the same problems with imail since installed win2003 SP1

Haven't seen any crash since removing SP1 but this is not 100% sure at the moment. I will report it later this week.

Markus

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of scott_powner
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 1:48 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail crashes after declude 2.0.6

Last Friday I finally upgraded from 1.81 to 2.0.6.  We use Declude Pro Anti-Spam and Anti-Virus.  On Friday after the install Imail web messaging crashed several times.  We let the problem go until Monday.  On Monday the problems got worse with numerous crashes of web messaging.  I finally recopied 1.81 and have been crash free for 2 hours.  What is going on with 2.0.6?  Do I need to reconfigure something?  Win2003 on a xeon processor with 2gb memory.  

Thank you,

Scott Powner

MIU4

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