That's right on the money, Andy.

I agree 100%.


Andrew 8) 

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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt
> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 8:48 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPF - Missing the Point
> 
> >> still unacceptable and reason enough for me to discard SPF 
> >> completely. <<
> 
> I think the discusson is missing the key point of SPF.  Sure, 
> this list is focused on INCOMING spam, and thus we 
> restricting our discussions to SPFFAIL/SPFPASS and how to use 
> it in Declude.
> 
> However, that ignores what SPF is designed to do:
> 
> How many times have we received angry emails or hundreds of 
> bounce messages from other ISPs because some Spammer was 
> sending mail with a fake email sender - using OUR domain names?
> 
> If you define SPF for your own (and client) domain names, 
> then the largest ISPs won't accept the spam that has your 
> email address faked, thus you and your clients will no longer 
> be bombarded with responses/complaints/bounces to messages 
> you never sent in the first place.
> 
> The effect of having SPF defined is, that FEWER spammers even 
> bother trying to abuse YOUR domain name, because they know 
> that a lot of their spam would never reach anyone.  Instead, 
> they now use their own domain names and even set up SPF for 
> those.  To me - that ripple effect alone justifies SPF!
> 
> Thus, without question, SPF should be in place for all 
> domains you control.
> Specially for alias/vanity/web-only domains that never send any email.
> Ideally, in addition, set up SMTP AUTH for your clients so 
> that you can use SPFFAIL for incoming mail and, if you 
> choose, ignore SPFPASS for now.
> 
> Best Regards
> Andy Schmidt
> 
> Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
> Fax:    +1 201 934-9206 
> 
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