Scott,

I agree, unfortunately I do not have that information at present, I have
requested this information from the engineers and will post it a soon as
this is available. 

David B
www.declude.com 

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I don't have the order... But I believe filters are done last after External
comments.

If David's monitoring the list,
I think a list of what order the tests run in would be a great addition to
the Junkmail manual.
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We've been monitoring the MN-COMBO test (multiple tests failed) for the past
2 months.

Most are failing INV-URIBL and SNIFFER; but some only failing one of them
(either SNIFFER or INV-URIBL) but will fail DSBL/CBL/ROUTING/MXRATE.  We've
noticed that all the emails that we've monitored with the MN-COMBO that are
spam; have multiple country hops.  This is what we want to catch.  Deleting
based just on MN-COMBO will delete some false positives.  But detecting our
MN-COMBO test and then filtering the country hops will eliminate the false
positives as they all originate outside of USA and/or start in USA then
bounce to another country, then back to USA.

Does anyone know (Darrell); if the %COUNTRYCHAIN% can be passed to an
external program?  I've thought of developing an EXE that does this final
scan after MN-COMBO is tested.

TIA,
Erik


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Just to second this - I have seen a large amount of customers also farm out
filtering to companies like big fish which scan the mail in oversea's
countries.

Darrell
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Scott Fisher writes:

> I think this would do it in two filters:
> filter 1:
> SKIPIFWEIGHT 100
> TESTSFAILED END NOTCONTAINS MN-COMBO
> COUNTRIES   100  NOTCONTAINS US
>
> filter 2:
> SKIPIFWEIGHT 100
> TESTSFAILED END NOTCONTAINS MN-COMBO
> TESTSFAILED END CONTAINS filter1
> COUNTRIES END STARTSWITH US
> COUNTRIES 100 CONTAINS US
>
> I'd be careful. Lots of US subsidaries are owned by a foreign company 
> and have their mail server overseas.
> Also watch out for these special country codes: (which can belong to 
> valid

> servers):
> #
> #  Special Codes
> #
> *1 Multi-Regional
> *2 Europe
> *3 North America
> *4 Central/South America
> *5 Pacific Rim
> *A ARIN Unlisted (North America/South Africa) *B Public Data Network 
> *E RIPE Unlisted (Europe, North Africa, Middle East) *I Private IP *L 
> Loopback *M Multicast *P APNIC Unlisted (Asia Pacific) *R IANA 
> Reserved *U Unknown
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Erik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <Declude.JunkMail@declude.com>
> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 12:45 PM
> Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter
>
>
>> Could someone help me in creating a filter?
>>
>> I need something to this effect.  Can this be done in one filter?
>>
>>
>>
>> If WEIGHT = 100 or Higher then END
>>
>> If TESTFAILED CONTAINS "MN-COMBO" Then
>>   If CountryChain NOTCONTAINS "UNITED STATES" Then
>>      Then DELETE (triggers the filter - return 100 as weight)
>>     End If
>>
>>   If CountryChain CONTAINS "UNITED STATES->destination" Then
>>      'Email is probably good (return zero)
>>     Else
>>      DELETE (triggers the filter - return 100 as weight)
>>     End If
>>
>> End If
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Erik
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