Hi Sandy,
I apologize if this post offended you. I had no intention of posting anything that might be remotely construed as commercial spam. I used Declude for quite awhile, and still use Declude AV. I have monitored this list for years, not to upsell anything to anyone, but because it is one of the best technical resources on the net for guys that are in the trenches fighting spam every day. Declude users are, by and large, come of the most knowledgeable mail administrators around and the discussions are relevant and timely. For what is worth, there are a few Declude users here that know that anti-spam development is more of a personal crusade for me that a profit making venture. We are probably not even close to breaking even on anti-spam technology development, however I am fortunate in that our CYBERsitter product is profitable enough that I am able to indulge in development projects that are not profitable. You are correct that we published a Declude add-in for awhile, however many of the functions we wanted to get into would have simply been duplications of what Declude already did (and does) well. I withdrew the Declude version primarily because one of my goals was to come up with more of a "hands off" system and this is definitely not what Declude users are interested in. I made the decision to withdraw the Imail specific version because I specifically did not want to appear that we were trying to poach users from the Declude user base or to try and compete with Declude in any way. I posted the message yesterday because I genuinely thought this may be of some interest to Declude users. We have no desire to compete with Declude, rather we have a mutual desire to help administrators deal with the onslaught of garbage they have to deal with on a daily basis. I also think it is worth noting that we have spent many thousands of dollars developing our MXRate blacklist system. While we do use it for our own customers, we also provided a free IP4R system for public use. It gets about 110,000,000 hits a day and the only place we ever announced the availability of this free, public service was here on the Declude list. So, I can only assume that a large amount of the traffic is from Declude users. We have a new $6000 server devoted just to serving the free MXRate service, plus the ongoing bandwidth and maintenance costs. No one ever asked us to do this, and I simply felt that by doing so I could contribute to the Declude community in this way. Since I own the company, these costs basically come out of my pocket. I am disappointed that you feel my contribution is unworthy. Brian > -----Original Message----- > > Rather than list everything it does here, I put together a little > > info page at. . . > > I fail to see this post as anything but spam. > > > But, IMO, having published a Declude add-in for a while, then going > off to make money from your own competing products and not > participating in the user community, is not an adequate justification > for using this list as a marketing list. Just because you'd _like_ the > product to have Declude support doesn't mean that it falls > legitimately within the Declude user community. I'm sure plenty of us > would like our own commercial products to have Declude support, so we > could advertise them to another well-known community. But you know > what we need much, much more? A stable Declude 3.x that works. A > runtime license validation mechanism that doesn't seem suspiciously > tied to the uptime of a single remote server. And so on. > > What we don't need in the short term is another commercial MTA > integration. IMail may still have overall price/performance issues as > an MTA, but it's a lot more solid than in the past; SmarterMail was > more efficient from the get-go, and the Declude/SmarterTools > partnership is (we hope) still in force. Brazenly trying to upsell > your MTA so that "Barry" will build in support for it is pretty > insensitive to what Declude needs now. If you'd been listening to the > list lately, you'd know this. > > --Sandy > > > ------------------------------------ > Sanford Whiteman, Chief Technologist > Broadleaf Systems, a division of > Cypress Integrated Systems, Inc. > e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > SpamAssassin plugs into Declude! > > http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/SPAMC32/do > wnload/release/ > > Defuse Dictionary Attacks: Turn Exchange or IMail mailboxes > into IMail Aliases! > > http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/exchange2a > liases/download/release/ > > http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/ldap2alias > es/download/release/ > > --- > [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". 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