Nick, I think that if you left this mail in, your users won't complain that it is spam.
I have much the same opinion of these lists that Matt has; more explicitly, I have a counterweight (*not* a whitelist) that awards negative points to their score. I haven't seen spam from them yet, and all the mail that I do see is user-requested, with little self-inflicted spam, by which I mean extra advertising based mail that a user gets based on their agreement for the first list. I've noted that they tend to fall into the kind of RBL lists that have a hair-trigger and that generate the most false positives, e.g. BLARS, SORBS, PSBL, NOABUSE, NOPOSTMASTER and this is likely due to what Matt describes: listbuilder sends mail on behalf of others, who may not have the perfect double-opt-in requirements, or fail to adequately scrub unsubscribers or fail to remove based on delivery failures and bounces. Andrew 8) > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt > Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 8:17 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] I seem to get alot of spam > from the 'legit' lists. > > These are all Microsoft properties (I would imagine that you > know that already). Personally I have classified these in my > system so that filter associated with zombies spam are not > scored, and that in turn means that I need at least two hits > from things like SpamCop, Sniffer and SURBL in order to block > one of them (such providers can fail things like BADHEADERS, > SPAMHEADERS, GIBBERISH, etc., but those hits aren't > appropriate for this classification of E-mail). They do > create a good deal of spam though based on the type of > business that they are in since the lists are customer > supplied and there is no way that a company providing such > services can guarantee many thousands of small clients are > truly following best practices. I classify these just the > same as the likes of roving.com, icebox.com, etc. The only > services that I block by default are those that engage in > spamming of much larger lists for better known clients > instead of this do-it-yourself type stuff. > > Senderbase.org is a great place for researching this stuff, > and following the links to Google Groups (in the abuse > newsgroups) can show how extensive the abuse is. I don't > however think that any of these widely used small list > service providers are much worse than another one, and the > number of abuse complaints is probably commensurate with the > volume that they handle. > > Matt > > > > > Nick Hayer wrote: > > > Does anyone block them ? > > bcentral.com, bcentralhost.com, linkexchange.com, listbot.com, and > > listbuilder.com > > > > Thanks for your input - > > > > -Nick > > --- > > [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] > > > > --- > > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > > > > --- > [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude EVA www.declude.com] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
