No, Declude nor the OS nor your workstation nor etc go out to the internet to fetch the information. They use the DNS server that they are configured for. That DNS server is responsible for responding to the requesting app with the information or a time out or does not exist. That DNS server is what does the searching on the Internet according to protocol.
John T eServices For You "Seek, and ye shall find!" > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Baranowski > Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 3:53 PM > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] ip4r failure > > I guess I am missing what the local DNS really has to do with the ip4r > tests. > > The way I understand the ip4r filter is that Declude does a DSN lookup at > lets say SPAMCOP at bl.spamcop.net for a response. It is waiting for a > response from SPAMCOP not the configured local DNS server. If the SPAMCOP > keeps changing their ip address or it is doing a round robin then yes I > could see how it could miss one or two but once it is cached locally it > should be ok for a while. > > At that point SM may be waiting longer then Declude for a response which > would be why it is failing Declude. > > If am wrong please correct me. > > Thanks > > Rick > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Steiner > Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 11:56 AM > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] ip4r failure > > That may speed up resolution, but that's not my issue. The question is why > does SmarterMail catch the spam using the same ip4r tests? It is the same > message, and the tests are being perfomed on the same eml file within a few > seconds of each other. Why does Declude fail and SM succeed? > > Gary > > > -------- Original Message -------- > > From: "John T \(Lists\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 1:22 PM > > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] ip4r failure > > > > Although others opinions may vary, you are better off using a cache only > DNS > > server in-house for you mail server resolution. I do this on the Imail > > server itself. Speeds up resolution. > > > > John T > > eServices For You > > > > "Seek, and ye shall find!" > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Steiner > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 10:05 AM > > > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > > > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] ip4r failure > > > > > > How do I find that out? It is just an address that my hosting provider > > has given me. > > > I have no control over or way to access the DNS server. > > > > > > Gary > > > > > > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > > > > From: "John T \(Lists\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 2:40 AM > > > > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > > > > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] ip4r failure > > > > > > > > What is the OS of the DNS server being used? > > > > > > > > John T > > > > eServices For You > > > > > > > > "Seek, and ye shall find!" > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Steiner > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 7:27 PM > > > > > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > > > > > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] ip4r failure > > > > > > > > > > I've been having this problem with Declude going back to August and > my > > > > installation > > > > > of 2.0.6. I'm currently running 3.0.6.4 with SmarterMail 2.6. It > > seems > > > > that > > > > > irregularly Declude's ip4r tests time out, but SmarterMail > redundantly > > > > running the > > > > > same tests has no trouble picking up the spam. I have SM and > Declude > > both > > > > testing > > > > > SPAMCOP, DSBL, CBL, Spamhaus SBL, and Basura. What will happen is a > > spam > > > > will > > > > > get through Declude, but get caught by SM using the same tests. For > > > > example, > > > > > following is from the header of a recent message: > > > > > > > > > > X-RBL-Warning: NOLEGITCONTENT: No content unique to legitimate > E-mail > > > > detected. > > > > > X-RBL-Warning: IPNOTINMX: > > > > > X-RBL-Warning: DYNHELO: Dynamic HELO found. > > > > > X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [69.205.200.200] > > > > > X-Declude-Spoolname: 45172055.eml > > > > > X-Declude-Note: Scanned by Declude 3.0.6.4 > > > > (http://www.declude.com/x-note.htm) > > > > > for spam. > > > > > X-Declude-Scan: Score [7] at 21:24:19 on 14 Mar 2006 > > > > > X-Declude-Tests: NOLEGITCONTENT, IPNOTINMX, DYNHELO > > > > > X-Country-Chain: UNITED STATES->destination > > > > > X-SmarterMail-Spam: BAYESIAN FILTERING, CBL, SPAMCOP > > > > > > > > > > I went over this several times with Declude support, and the best > they > > > > were able to > > > > > come up with is for me to add "WINSOCKCLEANUP ON" to my declude.cfg, > > which > > > > > changed nothing. Using the DNS statement in the global.cfg also > > produced > > > > no effect. > > > > > > > > > > Maybe now that Declude and SmarterTools have such a close > > relationship, > > > > Declude > > > > > can ask SmarterTools how their ip4r tests work. Especially since > > Declude > > > > is supposed > > > > > to be using the DNS server information as set within SmarterMail. > > > > > > > > > > Has anyone else experienced this problem? I'm sure the next thing I > > will > > > > hear is that > > > > > this problem will go away if I upgrade to SM 3.0 and Declude 4.0. > > > > > > > > > > TIA, > > > > > > > > > > Gary > > > > > > > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. 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