I think one of the underlying issues is that Declude isn't following a common version numbering scheme. Essentially they are using Major-dot-Minor-dot-Interim numbering, but they are doing alphas and betas as interim numbers that are never actually 'released'. This give the impression that there were several other versions in between when they were likely never publically released. To avoid confusion, they should add an alpha/beta descriptor so that they aren't counting up the numbers and making some feel like they are missing something. That way for instance, the initial release of 4.x would be 4.0.0 instead of 4.0.3, and the latest release would be 4.2.0 as the first public release. For the non-public releases they could number them 4.2.0 b1, 4.2.0 b2, etc., but only increment the first 3 parts when there is a public release of a major, minor or interim release.

Aside from that, the release notes are surely not showing all of the required information. I care much more about bug fixes in such notes than new functionality. Many of us are not hopping on to the latest release because of repeated bugs in newly designed functions or changes to existing code, but this can also mean that bugs might be fixed in these newer releases that we are not aware of them existing or being fixed. There's nothing worse than spending hours and hours trying to diagnose something that has already been identified and possibly fixed, or dealing with an undocumented change of behavior. I think I spent about 8 hours and suffered several IMail Queue Manager crashes in 8.15 HF2 due to 'killer messages', a flaw that was fixed in IMail 8.21 but wasn't identified in their release notes as something that could crash Queue Manager when certain message patterns were found. I would have upgraded to 8.2x months before if I had known this, but instead it negatively affected my service and required extensive amounts of time to identify, document, report and work around.

Ipswitch is generally very good about release notes as companies go, and it would be nice if Declude followed their lead. In the following KB article, they cover pretty much all of the bases, and their release notes section is extensive and also not too wordy. I read this stuff intently. Also note the "Known Issues" section at the top of the document.

   http://support.ipswitch.com/kb/IM-20060310-JH01.htm

I couldn't stress enough the importance of very detailed release notes and owning up to every bug, no matter how minor or embarrassing it may be. Administrators require this information in order to do their jobs right, especially when it comes to E-mail since it is a hugely important service as well as being the one most often exploited. I would also deeply appreciate more attention being paid to fixing known bugs and undesirable behavior with existing functionality.

Matt


John Shacklett wrote:

Yes, David, I understand, and thanks for the reply, but

[A] that's a passive process that requires that I remember to go out every
day and look at the release notes and see if there's been any addition, plus

[B] we've jumped from 4.1.0 to 4.2.3 [and from 3.1.0 to apparently 3.1.0??].

So that's not very satisfactory. In fact, it's less than neutral in terms of
overall satisfaction.
Good luck with the new and more effective process, I [for one] can't wait.

--

John S

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Barker
Sent: Thursday, 04 May 2006 11:26 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Version control and announcements.

John,

I understand your frustration and I am working on correcting this and
creating a process for this to be effective. Just a FYI you can always check
the release notes: http://www.declude.com/Articles.asp?ID=122

David B
www.declude.com



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