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Andrew, great info.  Thanks.
 
We still have not upgraded to the latest from Imail since the 8.22 release... but you would think that Declude would already support it since the  MTA really changed in 8.22 of Imail.
 
If you could us posted (the list or myself) on your results that would be great.  You can contact me directly or via the list.  Same with Matt.
 
The most I'm concerned about these upgrades is the process times (with Declude) and the process CPU (also Declude and Imail) with our volume of email.
 
So your input would be great to us as well as others... and Matt (or Matt's input to others still running the "old - stable" version of Declude/Imail)
 
Andrew, what version of Window server are you running?  And are you running a (windows) are you running gateway (either windows or non-windows)?
 
Thank you much!
 
-Erik
 
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colbeck, Andrew
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 11:16 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] What happened to the logging since 2.x????, it's HUGE

Well, great minds think alike*.
 
I'm working on upgrading my IMail+Declude too.  And like Matt, I'm doing it primarily to update my MTA, not to update my stable Declude 2.x software!
 
I went directly from 8.15 HFx to IMail Server 2006.04a (aka 9.04) as an upgrade**.
 
I haven't upgraded Declude yet even though this is a supposedly-buggy combination.  See:
 
 
from Aug-24-2005; the v3.x series was put into general release a week later.
 
Now, your mileage may vary, but Ipswitch may have fixed what they broke in the intervening gap.  I've been up and running and processed 84,000 messages for 125,000 recipients with no issues.
 
As a bonus, rebooting the server during normal operations no longer leaks spam as it used to do, i.e. I no longer have to make sure to shut down the IMail services before a reboot to prevent spam leakage.
 
Andrew 8)
 
* And fools seldom differ.
 
** My IMail upgrade steps not include required reboots
 
a) RTFM
b) made sure my backup was good
c) told my firewall to silently drop incoming SMTP requests from the Internet
d) install MDAC 2.6+ (I went with 2.8 SP1)
e) install IIS web server (no front page extensions, no web admin, no ftp, no smtp, etc)
f) stop all Ipswitch services and applications
g) install the IMail as an upgrade to my current path (d:\imail)
h) wait interminably as CACLS.EXE applies security changes through my spam folder contents
i) test from internal side
j) apply Windows Updates
k) test from internal side
l) told the firewall to allow inbound SMTP again
m) test from external side
n) bask in the warm glow
 
 


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 12:25 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] What happened to the logging since 2.x????, it's HUGE

Erik,

Honestly, I was between a rock and a hard place.  Declude 2.x doesn't work with IMail 8.2+, and IMail 8.15- has issues with killer messages that crash the Queue Manager service (which I found out the hard way, and 8.21 apparently fixes).  For a while the killer messages were somewhat common, and all it took was one leaking through Declude to crash the services, and then you had to dig it out of the spool.

So to keep my Queue Manager stable, I had to make the leap.

I'll follow up with some comments about my experience.

Matt





Erik wrote:
LOL, had to laugh at Nick.  I'll wait to hear from Matt after his upgrade before we attempt to do it again.  I think Matt's and our servers handle about the same email volume.
 
-Erik
 
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Nick Hayer
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 2:52 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] What happened to the logging since 2.x????, it's HUGE

Hi Matt,

Matt wrote:
I'm trying an upgrade from the 2.x release for the first time,
Why on earth would you want to do that? Was 2x too bug free and you need some excitement?

-Nick


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