I don't have an answer to this question. I just know that it is a problem.
But what I find amusing is, here is another instance of two vendors of interacting software products who point the finger at each other, both saying "it's the other guy's fault." -------- Original Message -------- > From: "John T \(Lists\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 5:21 PM > To: declude.junkmail@declude.com > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 4.2 build 20 Released 6 July 2006 > > Although I do not use SmarterMail, my take is these are like T files in > Imail where it is not a complete message, but for some reason SmarterMail is > allowing Declude to have them even though they are not complete. > > John T > eServices For You > > "Seek, and ye shall find!" > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary > > Steiner > > Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 12:13 PM > > To: declude.junkmail@declude.com > > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 4.2 build 20 Released 6 July 2006 > > > > Here is SmarterTools take on the problem: > > > > > Failed is written to the .hdr if the message was not succesfully > recieved via SMTP. > > For > > > instance, if the connection is closed mid transmission. These(and > corresponding > > .emls) are > > > normally just deleted by SmarterMail. The only reason you are noticing > them is > > because of > > > Declude storing them in the error folder. > > > > The implication is that Declude is interrupting part of SmarterMail's > normail process. > > Now I know this is essentially what Declude does anyway, but shouldn't > Declude know > > the difference between a message that has finished SMTP and SmarterMail is > ready to > > deliver, and a message that is incomplete in the SMTP process and an SMTP > retry is > > occurring so this failed message should be ignored? Otherwise we are > going to get > > thousands of unneccessary incomplete messages dumped into the error folder > that is > > going to do nothing other than to take up disk space. Not to mention that > if some > > other type of error occurs that puts a message in the error folder, we'll > never find it > > because its buried under all these other superfluous messages. Before > 4.2.20, this > > wasn't a problem. > > > > > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > > > From: "David Barker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 3:24 PM > > > To: declude.junkmail@declude.com > > > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 4.2 build 20 Released 6 July 2006 > > > > > > Gary, > > > > > > This is a SmarterMail issue. When they fail to complete the .hdr file > they > > > write "Failed" in the .hdr as this was causing major spam leakage for > > > declude we decided to move incomplete messages to the \error folder. > You > > > could try changing the "Failed" to Written and drop the messages in the > > > \spool. > > > > > > David B > > > www.declude.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary > > > Steiner > > > Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 2:52 PM > > > To: declude.junkmail@declude.com > > > Subject: re: [Declude.JunkMail] 4.2 build 20 Released 6 July 2006 > > > > > > Now that I've installed 4.2.20, I'm getting a lot of messages in the > error > > > folder (I'm running SmarterMail 3.3.2369). Most of them seem to be > spam, > > > but there are some good messages in there. Am I now going to have to > scan > > > this folder for false positives just like the held spam folder? > > > > > > Here is an example of the .hdr file for a message that was good: > > > > > > Failed > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > cmdspc: false > > > helo: ivmail1.fcc.es > > > > > > What does "Failed" mean? Is there something I can look for in the > headers > > > of the message (in the .eml file) that would indicate this? Is there > any > > > way to requeue this message? > > > > > > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > > > > From: "David Barker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 11:01 AM > > > > To: Declude.Virus@declude.com>, <Declude.JunkMail@declude.com > > > > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] 4.2 build 20 Released 6 July 2006 > > > > > > > > EVA ADD New NONSTANDARDHDR vulnerability test. Messages > found to > > > > have broken headers are moved to the \virus folder > > > > > > > > EVA FIX ALLOWVULNERABILITIESFROM (for user) > > > > > > > > EVA FIX BANEXT buffer overflow > > > > > > > > SM ADD When an error is found in the envelope (.hdr) file > the > > > > message is moved to the \error folder > > > > > > > > SM ADD Decludeproc will not start without a valid > domainlist.xml > > > > > > > > SM FIX QUEUEFILE_SAVEFILE the log is showing the correct > directory > > > > path > > > > > > > > SM FIX Allows admin to set VIRDIR to any directory path in > the > > > > virus.cfg > > > > > > > > David Barker > > > > Product Manager > > > > Your Email security is our businessT > > > > 978.499.2933 office > > > > 978.988.1311 fax > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > > > > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type > > > > "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at > > > > http://www.mail-archive.com. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, > > > just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe > > > Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at > > > http://www.mail-archive.com. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > > > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > > > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > > > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > > > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
