Hi,

I understand the dynamic nature of the network assingments. That was why I 
wrote part 2 of my message. I like to have a way to see how many errors I get 
about corrupt data. If it's just a few per week, no problem. If it gets to be 
sever a day maybe it's time for a new all_list.dat. Right now I don't seem to 
have a way to detect that. :-(


Met vriendelijke groet,
Bonno Bloksma
hoofd systeembeheer



tio hogeschool hotelmanagement en toerisme 
begijnenhof 8-12 / 5611 el eindhoven
t 040 296 28 28 / f 040 237 35 20
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  / www.tio.nl 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Gary Steiner 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 7:37 PM
  Subject: re: [Declude.JunkMail] all_list.dat


  The "corrupt RIPE data" should be referring to 145.53.30.139.  Though if you 
go to www.ripe.net and do a search, 145.53.0.0/16 is listed as belonging to 
Planet Technologies with an email address of [EMAIL PROTECTED] and being in The 
Netherlands.  Which is essentially the same as the listing for 213.75.0.0/16.

  Unfortunately the entries in the RIPE database don't have dates associated 
with them, so you can't tell if those listings were the same back in May when 
the all_list.dat was created.  The listings change all the time, so essentially 
the all_list.dat file is outdated as soon as it comes out.  And it also doesn't 
help that RIPE, ARIN, APNIC, LACNIC, etc. are all separate independent entities 
with separate databases, so when things change Declude has to look in many 
places to update the all_list.dat.

  Gary



  -------- Original Message --------
  > From: "Bonno Bloksma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  > Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 4:15 AM
  > To: [email protected]
  > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] all_list.dat
  > 
  > Hi,
  > 
  > I'm using the all-list.dat from may 2007. Occasionaly I was checking the 
declude junkmail logs to see if any new problems with unknown networks would 
arise.
  > But today I found out that information is not in the Declude log at level 
high. In the headers of a mail I found:
  > X-Country-Chain: 'EU' [corrupt RIPE data]->NETHERLANDS->destination
  > 
  > The Received lines are:
  > Received: from hpsmtp-eml16.kpnxchange.com [213.75.38.116] by 
student.tio.nl with ESMTP (SMTPD-9.21) id A48204B4;
  >   Fri, 29 Jun 2007 08:19:46 +0200
  > Received: from hpsmtp-eml05.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.105]) by 
hpsmtp-eml16.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830);
  >   Fri, 29 Jun 2007 08:19:46 +0200
  > Received: from colligno601a0c ([145.53.30.139]) by 
hpsmtp-eml05.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959);
  >   Fri, 29 Jun 2007 08:19:45 +0200
  > 
  > In the loglines for this message there is no mention of "corrupt RIPE data" 
which is what I was looking for all the time. So:
  > 
  > 1) Can we have a new all_list.dat with updated info please. KPN is a large 
telco which has 4 ISPs covering the Netherlands.
  > 
  > 2) In what way can I detect when the all_list.dat file is getting oudated, 
when information about networks is missing/corrupt?
  > 
  > 
  > Met vriendelijke groet,
  > Bonno Bloksma
  > hoofd systeembeheer
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > tio hogeschool hotelmanagement en toerisme 
  > begijnenhof 8-12 / 5611 el eindhoven
  > t 040 296 28 28 / f 040 237 35 20
  > [EMAIL PROTECTED]  / www.tio.nl 
  > 
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