We've done this in the past also -- it made quite a difference,
especially on underpowered hardware.

_M

On Thursday, July 10, 2008, 5:18:30 PM, Fox,Thomas wrote:

FT> We do, it works really well. Quite Speedy!!

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
>> Ferrell Ard
>> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 4:38 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] RE: Thoughts on running DNS on the IMail
>> (declude) server ???
>> 
>> Hey David
>> 
>> What would your thoughts be on running a
>> "Caching ONLY" DNS on the IMail (declude) server ???
>> 
>> Thanks very much
>> Ferrell
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Todd Richards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 4:26 PM
>> Subject: X-IMail-SPAM RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Overnight Spam Increase?
>> 
>> 
>> > OK, that was it.  I went onto my mail server and tried to ping my DNS
>> > server.  No go.  I rebooted my DNS server, flushed the cache from my
>> mail
>> > server, then all was well.  It looks like things are working again.
>> >
>> > Quick question - can I add a second DNS server (which I have) so that
>> it
>> > looks there if the primary is unavailable?  I never thought of that
>> but I
>> > guess anytime I have to reboot the primary server, then I am
>> effectively
>> > leaving the mail server "unprotected".
>> >
>> > Thanks, David!
>> >
>> > Todd
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
>> David
>> > Barker
>> > Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 2:01 PM
>> > To: [email protected]
>> > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Overnight Spam Increase?
>> >
>> > ISSUE:
>> >
>> > Spam is slipping past Declude that hasn't normally passed any
>> filtering.
>> > Spam is not being weighted high enough for actionable thresholds to
>> take
>> > effect.
>> > Place your LOGLEVEL in DEBUG, let it run for several minutes and then
>> open
>> > the log.  What we are trying to do is identify a possible DNS issue.
>> > Packets not making it to the DNS server or not making it back from
>> the DNS
>> > server can be an issue if you are running Declude Security Suite.
>> The
>> > reason is we rely heavily on these queries to be successfully
>> resolved in
>> > order to trigger certain test and assign spam a high enough weight.
>> If
>> > you
>> > see the following in the log, find out where these queries are going
>> > because
>> > they aren't getting back to the application.
>> >
>> > 02/07/2007 13:48:34.640 35958831 Test #2 [ADNSBL] didn't get a
>> response
>> > 02/07/2007 13:48:34.640 35958831 Test #3 [BLITZEDALL] didn't get a
>> > response
>> > 02/07/2007 13:48:34.640 35958831 Test #4 [CBL] didn't get a response
>> > 02/07/2007 13:48:34.640 35958831 Test #5 [CSMA-SBL] didn't get a
>> response
>> > 02/07/2007 13:48:34.640 35958831 Test #6 [DSBL-CONFIRMED] didn't get
>> a
>> > response
>> > 02/07/2007 13:48:34.640 35958831 Test #7 [FIVETEN-SRC] didn't get a
>> > response
>> > 02/07/2007 13:48:34.640 35958831 Test #7 [FIVETEN-SRC]didn't get a
>> > response
>> > 02/07/2007 13:48:34.640 35958831 Test #8 [JAMMDNSBL] didn't get a
>> response
>> > 02/07/2007 13:48:34.640 35958831 Test #9 [INTERSIL] didn't get a
>> response
>> > 02/07/2007 13:48:34.640 35958831 Test #10 [IPWHOIS] didn't get a
>> response
>> > 02/07/2007 13:48:34.640 35958831 Test #11 [IMP-SPAM] didn't get a
>> response
>> > 02/07/2007 13:48:34.640 35958831 Test #12 [MXRATE-BLOCK] didn't get a
>> > response
>> > 02/07/2007 13:48:34.640 35958831 Test #12 [MXRATE-BLOCK] didn't get a
>> > response
>> > 02/07/2007 13:48:34.640 35958831 Test #12 [MXRATE-BLOCK] didn't get a
>> > response
>> > 02/07/2007 13:48:34.640 35958831 Test #14 [NJABL] is same as Test #14
>> > [NJABL=127.0.0.2]. Answer=?
>> > 02/07/2007 13:48:34.640 35958831 Test #15 [SBL] didn't get a response
>> > 02/07/2007 13:48:34.640 35958831 Test #16 [SORBS-HTTP] didn't get a
>> > response
>> > 02/07/2007 13:48:34.640 35958831 Test #16 [SORBS-HTTP] didn't get a
>> > response
>> > 02/07/2007 13:48:34.640 35958831 Test #16 [SORBS-HTTP] didn't get a
>> > response
>> >
>> > RESOLUTION:
>> >
>> > Check your diags.txt, if you see an IP address next to the DNS field
>> and
>> > you
>> > see the above in your DEBUG log, that DNS server has either stopped
>> > responding or connectivity has been lost between the email server and
>> the
>> > DNS machine.  If no IP address has been identified in this field then
>> > Declude is having an issue reading it from your mail server itself.
>> Open
>> > up
>> > your Global.cfg and specify an alternate address to another DNS
>> server
>> > next
>> > to the DNS directive near the top of the file.  Make sure to save
>> your
>> > file,
>> > rename or delete the old DEBUG log and start a new one.  You should
>> see
>> > that
>> > these "didn't get a response" goes away.
>> >
>> > If you do not have an alternate DNS server try use the following.
>> >
>> > DNS       208.67.222.222
>> >
>> > Also check your firewall to make sure it is not blocking DNS queries.
>> >
>> > David B
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
>> Todd
>> > Richards
>> > Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 11:05 AM
>> > To: [email protected]
>> > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Overnight Spam Increase?
>> >
>> > Hmm, this is new to me.  An internal DNS issue or external (which we
>> host
>> > with DNSMadeEasy)?  This just started so I'm not sure where to look
>> for
>> > resolution.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Todd
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
>> David
>> > Barker
>> > Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:11 AM
>> > To: [email protected]
>> > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Overnight Spam Increase?
>> >
>> > Looks like you are having a DNS problem, this email never scored any
>> RBL's
>> > yet when checking the IP it failed several.
>> >
>> > Failed: SPAMCOP HOSTKARMA SENDERSCORE UBL UCEPROTECTL2 UCEPROTECTL3
>> > CASA-CBL+ CASA-CBL- SORBS-WEB SPAMHAUS PBL2
>> >
>> > David B
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
>> Todd
>> > Richards
>> > Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:16 AM
>> > To: [email protected]
>> > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Overnight Spam Increase?
>> >
>> > Thanks David.  What I'm seeing is legitimate spam that while it is
>> going
>> > through Declude - most is marked as spam - it's not scoring quite
>> high
>> > enough to get held.
>> >
>> > Normally my Junk E-mail folder in Outlook (used to catch what little
>> does
>> > make it through) has about 10 from the evening before.  This morning,
>> I
>> > had
>> > 140 in there.  The strange part is that it looks like "old school"
>> spam -
>> > credit card stuff, meds, etc.  But when I look at the headers I can
>> see it
>> > is going through the filters.
>> >
>> > Below is an example of one such emails, with the header information
>> before
>> > the body.  (note my hold weight is at 19)
>> >
>> > Todd
>> >
>> >
>> > ******** HEADER **********
>> >
>> >
>> > Received: from [79.186.114.208] [79.186.114.208] by mail.nnepa.com
>> with
>> > ESMTP
>> >  (SMTPD-8.22) id A25D01E4; Wed, 09 Jul 2008 23:38:53 -0500
>> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > From: "giraud bryan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > Subject: **SPAM**credit history
>> > Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 02:51:27 +0000
>> > MIME-Version: 1.0
>> > Content-Type: text/plain;
>> > charset="iso-8859-1"
>> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>> > X-Priority: 3
>> > X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
>> > X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138
>> > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198
>> > X-invURIBL-Scan: Scanned by invURIBL 3.1.1 on 7/9/2008 11:40:06 PM
>> > X-invURIBL-Weight: 0
>> > X-invURIBL-Range: CLEAN
>> > X-RBL-Warning: SNIFFER: Message failed SNIFFER: 58.
>> > X-RBL-Warning: FILTER-COUNTRY: Message failed FILTER-COUNTRY test
>> (line
>> > 174,
>> > weight 0)
>> > X-RBL-Warning: WEIGHT10: Weight of 18 reaches or exceeds the limit of
>> 10.
>> > X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [79.186.114.208]
>> > X-Declude-Spoolname: D925c01be0000747b.smd
>> > X-Declude-RefID: str=0001.0A010202.4875276F.00B8,ss=4,sh,fgs=0
>> > X-Declude-Note: Scanned by Declude 4.3.64 for spam.
>> > "http://www.declude.com/x-note.htm";
>> > X-Declude-Scan: Incoming Score [18] at 23:40:14 on 09 Jul 2008
>> > X-Declude-Tests: SNIFFER [18], FILTER-COUNTRY [0], WEIGHT10 [10],
>> WEIGHT15
>> > [15], ZEROHOUR [0]
>> > X-Country-Chain: POLAND->destination
>> > X-Declude-Code: f
>> > X-Helo: [79.186.114.208]
>> > X-RCPT-TO: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > Status: U
>> > X-UIDL: 515451365
>> > X-IMail-ThreadID: 925c01be0000747b
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ******** BODY **********
>> >
>> >
>> > Do Not consolidate your debt   Eliminate it!
>> >
>> > Legally ELIMINATE your credit card and other unsecured debt
>> >
>> > * WITHOUT ever making another payment to your creditors
>> > * WITHOUT it affecting your credit long-term
>> > * WITHOUT confrontation
>> >
>> > Visit www.joinedtodayi.com
>> >
>> > This IS NOT:
>> >
>> > * Bankruptcy
>> > * Consolidation
>> > * Or refinancing of any kind
>> >
>> > Visit here www.joinedtodayi.com to learn how
>> >
>> >
>> > * Must have a minimum of $10K in combined household unsecured debt to
>> > apply.
>> >
>> > * Must be a US resident.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
>> David
>> > Barker
>> > Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 2:24 PM
>> > To: [email protected]
>> > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Overnight Spam Increase?
>> >
>> > We got slammed at about 9 am EST time today, causing delays, most of
>> the
>> > increase looks like backscatter.
>> >
>> > David B
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
>> Todd
>> > Richards
>> > Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 11:47 AM
>> > To: [email protected]
>> > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Overnight Spam Increase?
>> >
>> > Hi Everyone -
>> >
>> > There was an unusually high increase in the amount of spam for me to
>> > review
>> > when I got to the office this morning, and more making it through to
>> my
>> > email than usual (still scanned and marked appropriately).
>> >
>> > Is anyone else seeing this?
>> >
>> > Todd
>> >
>> >
>> >
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