Keep in mind, it would only apply for certain destination addresses, not
all outgoing messages.
My company is very interested in this ability.  What would it take to
get this done?


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jonathan
Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 5:28 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] server-based encryption

I actually don't think it'd be too bad .. the keys would be stored on
the 
mail server, the program you call would find the body, encrypt it, pass 
declude a return true, or however it's handled, and away it goes out to
the 
world.  You are, of course, assuming that the user isn't using webmail,
and 
that they're using the imail box to send mail (relay).  The other catch 
would be decryption .. maybe not so difficult either.

Jonathan

At 04:56 PM 1/22/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>That would be ideal.  But is it feasible?
>If so, don't forget to include me on the royalties! :)
>-Scott
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jonathan
>Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 12:37 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] server-based encryption
>
>Maybe something could be scripted and called via declude .. an external
>..
>might not be so difficult ..
>
>Jonathan
>
>At 09:10 AM 1/22/2003 -0500, you wrote:
> >I was initially going to implement PGP, but I have about 10 internal
> >users (that would each need a digital certificate) sending to two or
> >three external users (that would need to install the public keys from
> >all of my internal users).  That's a lot of administration.
> >
> >I even tried setting up a computer running MS Outlook 2002 with the
> >following...
> >
> >Receive mail on Account A
> >Setup a rule to forward all messages from Account A out on Account B
> >Setup PGP on Account B
> >
> >Therefore internal users send mail to Account A.  The rule forwards
the
> >mail to external users via encrypted Account B.
> >
> >It seems logical enough, but Outlook 2002 would default to sending
out
> >on Account A rather than B, because the mail was originally received
on
> >Account A.  I even tried changing the default account, but it never
> >worked correctly.
> >
> >-Scott
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jeff Maze -
> >Hostmaster
> >Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 8:48 AM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] server-based encryption
> >
> >Have you tried PGP on the client side?
> >
> >I've used it before, but the only problem is that you have to
>distribute
> >your public key to everyone that you're sending messages to.  Then
they
> >have
> >to install PGP on their machine, create a public key for them, and
then
> >install your public key to read your message.
> >
> >Also, there was a big security hole discovered in PGP a few months
ago.
> >I
> >haven't heard anything about it recently as to whether they've fixed
it
> >or
> >not.
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Declude Forum
> >Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 8:35 AM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] server-based encryption
> >
> >
> >I tried a VPN between the sites, but the IT staff at the other site
> >(different company) couldn't get their act together.  I use a VPN for
>my
> >own
> >remote sites without any problems.
> >
> >I currently use SSL on the webmail interface, but for this instance
the
> >external users would need internal mail accounts.
> >
> >It would be nice if there was a simple app, like declude, that would
> >encrypt
> >outgoing emails.  A suggestion for a future release ;-)
> >
> >-Scott
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jonathan
> >Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 10:28 PM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] server-based encryption
> >
> >In our case, its a many to many, and not all the sites will be on our
> >mail
> >servers.  I'd rather not have all those sites tunneling into our
>server,
> >
> >just for management overhead.  But mostly, we need a way to let
> >end-users
> >send secure messages to people on a variety of ISPs etc. One being
AOL!
> >ick
> >.. hence my self-extracting file, or client pgp.
> >
> >Jonathan
> >
> >At 03:50 PM 1/21/2003 -0800, you wrote:
> > >If you are looking at just 2 primary sites, why not use a site to
>site
> >vpn
> > >to encrypt date between your locations.
> > >
> > >Jim
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Jonathan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 3:47 PM
> > >Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] server-based encryption
> > >
> > >
> > > > oops .. responded too quickly.  I guess that wouldn't be
> >server-side,
> > >would
> > > > it? :)  Sorry ..
> > > >
> > > > We've been using webmail in secure mode (yuck), and dabbling a
bit
> >with
> > >SSL
> > > > POP and SMTP.. but of course this doesn't help with remote
users.
>I
> >was
> > > > playing with just having the server pgp up any file that goes to
>an
> > >outside
> > > > address, or some self-extracting file .. didn't come up with
> >anything
> > > > else.  I'm interested to see what everyone else is working on,
> >though..
> > > >
> > > > Jonathan
> > > >
> > > > At 05:40 PM 1/21/2003 -0600, you wrote:
> > > > >There's always PGP,  but both sides need the plugins ..
> > > > >
> > > > >Jonathan
> > > > >
> > > > >At 03:30 PM 1/21/2003 -0800, you wrote:
> > > > >>I work for the healthcare division of Siemens, and we are
> >currently beta
> > > > >>testing our secure message delivery products (including
e-mail)
> >with
> > >some
> > > > >>our healthcare customers.  Depending on how soon you need it,
>our
> > >offering
> > > > >>should be publicly available in a couple of months.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Bill
> > > > >>
> > > > >>-----Original Message-----
> > > > >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Declude
> >Forum
> > > > >>Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 10:12 AM
> > > > >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > >>Subject: [Declude.Virus] server-based encryption
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Greetings,
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Does anyone use an application to encrypt outgoing email
>messages?
> >
> > > > >>I work for a medical related company, and we need a way to
>encrypt
> >
> > > > >>some outgoing messages.  In a nutshell, messages from about 10
>of
> > > > >>my users need to be encrypted when sent to a couple external
> > > > >>addresses.  Rather than buying digital certificates from
>Verisign
> > > > >>or the like for each user, I would like to be able to apply a
> > > > >>certificate at the server level as the messages leave my iMail
> > > > >>server.  I've begun researching MailMarshal and its optional
> > > > >>"Secure" feature. Has anyone incorporated MailMarshal (or any
> > > > >>other encryption method) with iMail?
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Thanks!
> > > > >>Scott Huber
> > > > >>Orion Medical Management
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > >
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> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
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> > >
> >
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