Thanks Doug and John and all the others for your input. As far as I know, we don't have an Intel NIC at all. I think we use a Real-Tek NIC for our IMail-Server. But I will find this out.
Uwe DC> I was simply replying to a gentlemen's post John. DC> Read the thread. DC> HE asked if I found out whether Declude was the CAUSE of the problem or I DC> switched to another AV product. >> > Did you (or someone else) find a solution in the meantime, or did >> > you >> just >> > switch to another AV ? DC> I said it was NOT Declude. Hence my post. DC> He specifically mentioned Peter Verzoni. I worked on that specific system. DC> Again my reply. DC> There was no need for further banter. He wanted to know if it was resolved. DC> I agree Imail does not cooperate well with Intel NICs at extreme traffic. DC> Your answer was GET A SERVER NIC. That is not the solution. The solution DC> is Imail should fix their bug or use a NON intel NIC. Better yet you must DC> use 3Com Nics to be sure since that seems to be all Imail tests. A NIC that DC> we have found is prone to many other issues and is no longer the market DC> leader. Back in 98-99 when Imail started it was and we all used them. No DC> longer true today as Dell, HP and most white box servers use Intel NICs. DC> But all that is irrelevant. The only issue I complained about was you were DC> rude. Don't accept it, fine. But enjoy the world you create with responses DC> like that. You must live with it, we must only read your posts. Deny Deny DC> Deny .. Be like Bush....... DC> To everyone else Again I apologize and promise I stop here no matter what DC> the response (snappy or otherwise <G>)... Except Declude related... DC> Regards DC> Doug DC> Doug DC> -----Original Message----- DC> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DC> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff DC> (Lists) DC> Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2004 6:05 PM DC> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DC> Subject: FW: [Declude.Virus] BSOD and IMail-Server reboot DC> Just realized this was originally posted on the Declude virus list, even DC> though it has nothing to do with Declude Virus, and the person should have DC> posted on the Imail list, since it is an Imail issue and a search of the DC> Imail list archives shows this has been discussed many times. >> The imail forum has not one post regarding an INTEL SERVER Board and >> on board NICs. I recall some conversations about desktop boards but >> none regarding SERVER BOARDs. DC> I do not remember whether the board was a Server board or workstation board DC> being part of the discussion on past problems. It was the Intel OB NIC that DC> was discussed, and a search of the Imail archives shows 269 hits for "Intel DC> OB NIC". >> Furthermore what logic would you as a Networking Professional give to >> an SMTP server running on the same platform and pushing sustained >> traffic of three times that of the IMAIL server yet never causing any >> issues and certainly not creating a BSOD. This is something I am very >> interested in hearing. DC> I am not an Ipswitch technician, so I have no idea of why this occurs, I DC> just know from many others posting such that it does! >> I have been building systems and maintaining data centers now for 16 DC> years. DC> Goody for you. Now back to the issue at hand. >> I have brought this exact issue to Intel's and Microsoft's attention >> and neither see any reason for the NIC to be the root cause of the issue. >> >> Microsoft has read the BSOD dumps and reports IMAIL as the culprit. DC> Then take the next step and share that information with Ipswitch. From all DC> the posts about Intel OB NICs and Imail over the years, it is my opinion DC> there is a real problem with Imail and Intel OB NICs. To date, most have DC> fixed the problem by using a server grade 3Com NIC and disabling the Intel DC> OB NIC. If you have the time and resources to further pursue this issue with DC> Ipswitch, many Imail admins will thank you. >> This type of comment from you has little to no value. You act like >> you DC> are >> participating in a forum but clearly you are using the forum simply >> for DC> your >> own end. DC> Sure it does. Just because you do not like the work around, and would rather DC> spend time on finding the cause of the problem in hopes that Ipswitch will DC> finally fix it, does not mean that my advice has no value. DC> BTW, how does my posting advice on a subject that comes up again and again DC> over time equal my using the forum for my own end? DC> John Tolmachoff DC> Engineer/Consultant/Owner DC> eServices For You >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "John Tolmachoff (Lists)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 3:11 PM >> Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] BSOD and IMail-Server reboot >> >> >> There has been much discussion concerning Intel OB NICs and Imail. >> >> Search the archives. >> >> Bottom line, get a solid Server designated NIC. >> >> John Tolmachoff >> Engineer/Consultant/Owner >> eServices For You >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > On Behalf Of Douglas Cohn >> > Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 11:32 AM >> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] BSOD and IMail-Server reboot >> > >> > This problem has not gone away. It occurs with very high traffic >> > only >> and >> > is not related to declude. That is we tested iot without declude >> > and >> it >> > still Blue Screens when there is extremely high traffic. >> > >> > Imail claims that when the server has extremely high traffic you >> > need >> to >> use >> > a SERVER NIC in the machine. One which does NOT offload processing >> > to >> the >> > server but has it's own processor onboard the NIC. >> > >> > This has some logic but if true why on servers running only SMTP >> passing >> > double the amount of sustained traffic do we not also have the issue. >> > >> > Using Intel Based SE7501WV2 baseboards with on board nics on >> > sevweral servers. Only Imail servers Blue Screen. We set them to >> > auto reboot >> and >> it >> > only happens in extremely high traffic times. >> > >> > DC >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Uwe Degenhardt >> > Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 5:05 AM >> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > Subject: [Declude.Virus] BSOD and IMail-Server reboot >> > >> > Hi list and especially >> > Peter Verzoni. >> > >> > Peter you mentioned a while ago >> > the following problems you had on one of your servers: >> > >> > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg06418.html >> > >> > Did you (or someone else) find a solution in the meantime, or did >> > you >> just >> > switch to another AV ? >> > >> > Would be great to get the link where you posted the info to F-Prot >> > as >> well. >> > >> > Thank you. >> > >> > Uwe >> > >> > --- >> > [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus >> > (http://www.declude.com)] >> > >> > --- >> > This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. 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