What do you mean "in the same market as Microsoft"? .NET is only in its current incarnation thanks to the work of the guy who invented Delphi. Otherwise, we'd be looking at Visual Basic 7.. then you'd be right. They wouldn't be in the same market. Dave
Thomas Hruska <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: David H Bolton wrote: > http://www.turboexplorer.com/ > > Next week. The all new Turbo C++, Turbo Delphi, Turbo Delphi for .NET and > Turbo C# include 200+ pre-built drag-and-drop components providing > everything you need to start real development today, as well as an > extendible environment (Professional editions only) for build-your-own and > third party components and IDE add-ons. > > Its 1987 all over again! (This is real- Jeff Duntemann says so!) > http://www.duntemann.com/Diary.htm > > David Bolton > www.dhbolton.com I manage a large group and we're pretty anxious about the Turbo C++ thing (been watching that site off-and-on since the day it existed), but I am also looking forward to hearing what people have to say about Turbo Delphi. However, I have commented on more than one occasion that the pricing is all wrong. Borland should be charging $10 for Explorer and $50 to upgrade from Explorer to Professional (or $60 for just Professional). The idea is that more people will need Explorer than Professional and the cost difference will offset/subsidize the $500 price point currently set. $500 (well, I'm rounding up from $499) is WAAAY too pricey if Borland is marketing nostalgia to regain lost customers. IMO, they are abusing the name "Turbo" without realizing that the name has nothing to do with why Turbo C++, Pascal, etc. were so popular. They were popular because they were fast, full-featured, affordable products. I got my copy of Turbo C++ for $35. To get the "full-featured" version with the new Turbo C++ will require $500. $500 is not affordable. And Borland products haven't been "Turbo" (fast) in a LONG time. Borland is foolish to price their products as if they are even in the same market as Microsoft. They still have one week to change their pricing model and save the company. Perhaps I'm wrong, but that's just the way I feel (been a fairly loyal Borland fan since before the Inprise disaster). A bunch of people are going to get stuck with the Explorer edition and end up being disappointed at not having an affordable upgrade path. -- Thomas Hruska CubicleSoft President Ph: 517-803-4197 Safe C++ Design Principles (First Edition) Learn how to write memory leak-free, secure, stable, portable, and user-friendly software. Learn more and view a sample chapter: http://www.CubicleSoft.com/SafeCPPDesign/ --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. --------------------------------- How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/7EuRwD/fOaOAA/yQLSAA/i7folB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> ----------------------------------------------------- Home page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/delphi-en/ To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/delphi-en/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/delphi-en/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/