What do you mean "in the same market as Microsoft"? .NET is only in its current 
incarnation thanks to the work of the guy who invented Delphi. Otherwise, we'd 
be looking at Visual Basic 7.. then you'd be right. They wouldn't be in the 
same market.
   
  Dave

Thomas Hruska <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
          David H Bolton wrote:
> http://www.turboexplorer.com/
> 
> Next week. The all new Turbo C++, Turbo Delphi, Turbo Delphi for .NET and 
> Turbo C# include 200+ pre-built drag-and-drop components providing 
> everything you need to start real development today, as well as an 
> extendible environment (Professional editions only) for build-your-own and 
> third party components and IDE add-ons.
> 
> Its 1987 all over again! (This is real- Jeff Duntemann says so!) 
> http://www.duntemann.com/Diary.htm
> 
> David Bolton
> www.dhbolton.com

I manage a large group and we're pretty anxious about the Turbo C++ 
thing (been watching that site off-and-on since the day it existed), but 
I am also looking forward to hearing what people have to say about Turbo 
Delphi.

However, I have commented on more than one occasion that the pricing is 
all wrong. Borland should be charging $10 for Explorer and $50 to 
upgrade from Explorer to Professional (or $60 for just Professional). 
The idea is that more people will need Explorer than Professional and 
the cost difference will offset/subsidize the $500 price point currently 
set. $500 (well, I'm rounding up from $499) is WAAAY too pricey if 
Borland is marketing nostalgia to regain lost customers.

IMO, they are abusing the name "Turbo" without realizing that the name 
has nothing to do with why Turbo C++, Pascal, etc. were so popular. 
They were popular because they were fast, full-featured, affordable 
products. I got my copy of Turbo C++ for $35. To get the 
"full-featured" version with the new Turbo C++ will require $500. $500 
is not affordable. And Borland products haven't been "Turbo" (fast) in 
a LONG time. Borland is foolish to price their products as if they are 
even in the same market as Microsoft. They still have one week to 
change their pricing model and save the company.

Perhaps I'm wrong, but that's just the way I feel (been a fairly loyal 
Borland fan since before the Inprise disaster). A bunch of people are 
going to get stuck with the Explorer edition and end up being 
disappointed at not having an affordable upgrade path.

--
Thomas Hruska
CubicleSoft President
Ph: 517-803-4197

Safe C++ Design Principles (First Edition)
Learn how to write memory leak-free, secure,
stable, portable, and user-friendly software.

Learn more and view a sample chapter:
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