As many will remember, we had somewhat the same discussions just
before D8 and D2005 came out. Nothing has changed! All the flurry
Microsoft has caused with their intended move toward .Net, and yet I STILL
haven't talked to one developer or client anywhere that can honestly say
this technology has provided ANYTHING that might be considered an
improvement over Win32! Perhaps it's a little easier to code...once you
learn it well enough...and maybe it does have built-in garbage
collection....but look at the price it's costing! To me, .Net is little
more than a way for Microsoft to keep it's competition off-balance, and
hopefully regain a little of what they lost due to Java! But that's how
business has always been run, and Microsoft can at least be applauded for
what will someday be known as one of the most interesting and successful
marketing ploys ever conceived!
Borland has danced to every beat of Microsoft's drums, and in doing
so they have not only lost the ability they once had to be an independent
force in technology, but have become puppets, doing only what Microsoft
wants them to do! They are but a mere shadow of what they once were. The
last two IDE's they released have been so bad it almost amazes me that brand
loyalty is willing to go as far as this! And from what others have told me
I believe the same may be true for some of their other products as well. I
had little choice myself and I'm sure there are others in the same boat, but
even we can be pushed over the edge! The one single idea that they sought
to promote on their own was Kylix, but plain bad...or was it
orchestrated...management allowed it to become little more than a joke
declared dead on arrival!
Little by little the support mechanisms that helped make Delphi what
it was have gone by the wayside, and just this morning I received my letter
about the Delphi Mag's last printed issue. I can't see how e-reading will
ever replace what can be held in your hands and enjoyed in a thousand
positions, but I do know I won't be renewing my subscription to this fine
magazine simply because I already spend more time in front of my screen than
I should!
I have resisted the .Net movement and Delphi's demise for a very
long time now, however it would appear that instead of the turn-around so
many of us hoped would eventually come, all that has actually happened is
that Borland has made it clear they intend to rival Microsoft's hold on
enterprise development for Windows, and at the same time no longer be the
small developer's best friend! And that's just plain dumb! Or is it smart,
and really just Part of an overall plan designed to keep the Feds and
people's groups off Microsoft's back by becoming a sacrifice to the great
lie that competition is alive and well? Don't laugh too loud as Microsoft
can afford to play the game anyway they want, and I've not met, read about,
or even heard of an upper-management mogul younger than myself who wouldn't
give away whatever was asked of them for a stock option! But enough
conspiracy theory... whatever the reasons, the writing has been on the wall
for some time now and every day that goes by it is reaffirmed.
As I said, I have resisted this unwanted change for a long time, but
I'm not a fool and have tried to provide for the moment when I no longer
have a choice! I picked up a copy of VS 2003 and a copy of Chrome so I
could continue and still use the only language I really know. Borland
should have been the company that did what Rem Objects did, whether for
their own IDE or not, because they have championed Pascal all along! But
instead they derived another layer with the VCL for .NET...a technology that
doesn't conform to even the .Net 1.1 standards! Is RemObjects going to be
the new Borland? No one can say but think about why this has happened, and
why no 3rd party vendor has succeeded in finding a way to extend Delphi
itself in a viable direction. Mark Miller tried it for years with CodeRush,
RemObjects gave it consideration, and I'm willing to bet there are more we
haven't even heard about. But Borland wouldn't be part of such
plans...plans that could have given them new life! Instead of helping these
people, Borland shut them out, and made it impossible for them to do a
really great job! That's why VS has become their IDE of choice! Smacks
even more of marketing games between Microsoft and Borland!
Well whether we'll ever know or not only time will tell, but I know
I won't be buying into the next Delphi IDE unless IU hear a whole bunch of
new things that can change my opinions about all this. When my current
group of Win32 projects have been finished, I plan on putting my full time
into VS and Chrome...at least until or unless something better comes along.
If Borland makes a BIG change in direction and manages to give a little
thought to those of us NOT working for Fortune 500 companies, well....?
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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Jack
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 4:33 PM
To: Delphi-Talk Discussion List
Subject: Re[2]: Delphi 2006 Announced...moved from Delphi List
Robert's email says it well. When I started a new project early
this year, I really wanted to get D7 instead of D2005. However,
Borland didn't sell it any more. D2005 has nice features but
for what I want to do (Win32), it's fat and slow with a seriously
incomplete help. It seems that D2006 goes further in this direction.
Borland is too eager to go .net. Another team in my company did
a project in C#.NET. The slowness and huge memory footprint make
people think of redoing it in Win32. All said, I understand Borland's
decision to embrace .net that anxiously to some extent. They want
to stay ahead (and away from Win32 in particular because MS says
.net is the future.) MS defines the direction and Borland just rushes
in without looking :) Well, it's a little unfair to say that - they
did a good job with Delphi, and they don't have much choice for
the survival of the company. But D2005 has been disappointing and
D2006 doesn't seem to be rectifying the mistakes. No matter how,
I hope Borland do well and Delphi gets the attention it deserves.
--
Best regards,
Jack
Tuesday, October 11, 2005, 3:36:48 PM, you wrote:
> Even though they "announced" it's release, not their intention to, I
> knew that is what is was, however I think the reason so many of us are
> frustrated by an announcement like this is that it's the same old thing
> again! Borland's ideas on Marketing seem to be aimed at the kind of hype
> that you throw out at stockholder's meetings, and NOT in actually doing
> anything to get their products into the hands of the people who use them.
> That quote was right out of a similar statement made about Delphi 2005,
and
> it doesn't mean anything more today than it did then!
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