Absolutely!  I'm always up for a game of dodge ball! <g>  Seriously
though, I'm actually more worried about Delphi's future now then I was when
version 8 was released!  I can't put it all into a concise set of thoughts,
but it's this feeling I have in the back of my head somewhere.  This whole
debacle with putting the developer side up for sale and then taking it back
in themselves under yet another new name is exactly the kind of thing we see
happening on wall street every day and we all know better than to trust such
corporations!  Why then is everyone so optimistic about Borland and
CodeGear?  I think it's simply more "fan-aticism", and the fact that we
don't like the changes we see coming down the road.  But change is both
inevitable and necessary, for technology to get better and for economic
growth.  It shouldn't be feared or turned away from...it should be embraced
and steered through use in the directions we prefer!  
        Nothing would make me happier than to be 100% wrong in this case,
but really believe Delphi's sixteen year reign as the best IDE/Language
combo for Windows is over, and I think Borland knows it too.  Microsoft has
put into play the single biggest change in the industry to be seen in all
this time as well, and no matter what you're personal feelings are about the
company, they have single-handedly changed the entire world and can easily
do so again!  For better or worse?  You tell me!  Nothing is ever perfect,
and I have problems with the way they handle business.  But for now at
least, because eventually they to will succumb to something greater than
themselves, they control the desktop market, and a very large percentage of
the commercial trade as well.  They've got the cash to buy whatever and
whomever they want, and the setup to put it all to good use!  They've got
the marketing machine to sway the public in any direction they want, and
they have something else that goes beyond normal corporate vision.  They
still have a man and his dreams!
        I'm finding NET to be bit difficult to wrap my head around in some
cases, but then I never even tried to learn a different language or system
before.  And I like much of what Chrome has brought to Object Pascal.  It's
not going to kill me to try and prepare for NET's eventual takeover, and if
it fails...well than I'll know the pleasure of being wrong about this
situation that I would prefer being wrong about in the first place!
        The ball is now back in your court!


from Robert Meek dba Tangentals Design  CCopyright 2006
Proud to be a moderator of "The Delphi Lists" at elists.org

(["An unused program is the consequence of a higher logic!", nil])  As
written in The Compendium of Accepted Robotic and Surrlogic Theorems Used in
the Self Analysis of Elemental Positronic Pathways...1st Edition Revised


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Bob Swart
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 2:55 AM
To: delphi-talk@elists.org
Subject: [Fwd: Re: Delphi - current status and future?]

Hi Robert,

(this is a report to the correct group I hope)

>       So when you add it all up, it really doesn't look good for Delphi
> down the road.  And especially not for Delphi NET which is already behind
by
> two versions.  Microsoft recently released NET 3.0 and there's no
indication
> the next version of Delphi NET will even handle NET 2.0!

The next version of Delphi will handle .NET 2.0, and will also be able 
to use all .NET 3.0 assemblies (but probably not with a designer for the 
WPF and XAML stuff).

Note however that .NET 3.0 is a misleading name. .NET 3.0 can best be 
seen as a set of add-on assemblies op top of .NET 2.0 (.NET 3.0 cannot 
exist without .NET 2.0 - it's only extending it). The difference between 
.NET 1.0 and .NET 1.1 was far bigger - since these resulted in different 
.NET folders and different mscorelibs and different applications for 
each version (1.0 or 1.1) of the framework. With .NET 2.0/3.0, I can 
write a single application that will run on "both" frameworks. And you 
will only have a single folder, so really it's *not* a new works. The 
name .NET 2.1 would have been better, although .NET 2.01 might probably 
be best.
This is just Microsoft marketing at its best, I guess ;-)

> Delphi, being a fan doesn't get the work done or impress those whom I work
> for.  So I am going to continue straddling the fence until it becomes
> obvious that one side or the other has won out!  

I'll be on the 'other side' of the fence then, throwing Delphi related 
stuff (articles, tips, news, code snippets, etc.) over to you.

Wanna play catch? ;-)

Groetjes,
           Bob Swart

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