What you said is why I didn't worry much about C# either. I bought myself a syntax book and fired up the compiler a few times just to get a handle on it and so I could read examples, but Chrome allows me to take my knowledge of Object Pascal and move into NET with the least amount of frustration! I'll grant you that WinForm Apps do seem clunky compared to Win32, BUT, Delphi 1 seems clunky when compared to D6 as well! And as someone else mentioned in this or another thread on this subject, WinForms is I believe a bridge. I've been looking into the Windows Presentation technology and find it exciting! Win32 and Delphi will be around for a long time, but anyone who doesn't explore newer technologies and make themselves familiar with the cutting edge is I believe kidding himself, because nothing ever stays the same, and whether you choose to accept it or not, we are being pushed into a whole new way of looking at, using, and designing applications. The Internet hasn't begun to reach a static point and maybe never will! But I believe NET was designed to fit the new paradigm of service contracts and modular applications that can grow in ways we haven't even considered yet and for which Microsoft and others will be able to create whole new ways of supporting both the personal and commercial markets. And with these "new" ways will come equally new ways of charging us for these services that they will ensure we cannot do without!
from Robert Meek dba Tangentals Design CCopyright 2006 Proud to be a moderator of "The Delphi Lists" at elists.org (["An unused program is the consequence of a higher logic!", nil]) As written in The Compendium of Accepted Robotic and Surrlogic Theorems Used in the Self Analysis of Elemental Positronic Pathways...1st Edition Revised -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cameron Cole Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 11:11 AM To: Delphi-Talk Discussion List Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: Delphi - current status and future?] To me, the truth lies somewhere in between for Delphi. Delphi is a great WinForm language and its future is solid in that area. It will never be a Visual Studio sized product and large development shops will probably stop using it, but it will live on. People still work in FoxPro and it hasn't seen a good step forward in a decade or so. "VB Classic" will still be around 5+ years from now and it has been shuned by Microsoft which to me is another reason to avoid there product lines. Who wants to learn C# be 7-8 years down the road and C$ comes out and doesn't support your C# apps? Say what you will about Borland and there HUGE marketing screwups, they never abandond us to upgrade or die. Developers are so caught up in the latest greatest. Personally, I will move when I see that C# can do it better and easier. I write code in C# for a few contract jobs, but I still perfer Delphi. Delphi isn't clunky like C# WinForms, it is blazing by comparison. I like a lot of the changes in C# from a programmer standpoint, but they are minor upgrades at best and case sensitivity is a huge annoyance for me. So when SQL Server finally moves off of TSQL and to C# (which I think will eventually happen... probably in 2020), internet based apps offer the same speed and dependability of WinForm apps or they finally write something meaningful in C# at Microsoft (Office, Window or Visual Studio) I will probably move to it myself. As of right now, no customer of mine asks... what is this interface written in? As of right now, our largest competitors write their apps in FoxPro, COBOL and FoxPro (yep two FoxPro apps). I haven't seen a C# app on the horizon and I don't think as a language it will bring any additional end user features that we don't or can't already provide. Interestingly, we are one of the few internet based apps in our market and we built ours years ago using Fat Client front ends with Thin Client architecture which is now all the rage in C# land. It will take a lot more code out there in .NET land before I move off of one of the greatest sources of free powerful code bases known to me. It is rare that I can't find some snippit of code for free in Delphi and pretty rare to find a good one in C#. It was and is a community of devotees that actually know how to code and whose philiosophy is very open. This is in strike contrast to Microsofts closed world. All IMO of course. __________________________________________________ Delphi-Talk mailing list -> Delphi-Talk@elists.org http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/delphi-talk __________________________________________________ Delphi-Talk mailing list -> Delphi-Talk@elists.org http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/delphi-talk