What you said is why I didn't worry much about C# either.  I bought
myself a syntax book and fired up the compiler a few times just to get a
handle on it and so I could read examples, but Chrome allows me to take my
knowledge of Object Pascal and move into NET with the least amount of
frustration!  
        I'll grant you that WinForm Apps do seem clunky compared to Win32,
BUT, Delphi 1 seems clunky when compared to D6 as well!  And as someone else
mentioned in this or another thread on this subject, WinForms is I believe a
bridge.  I've been looking into the Windows Presentation technology and find
it exciting!  
        Win32 and Delphi will be around for a long time, but anyone who
doesn't explore newer technologies and make themselves familiar with the
cutting edge is I believe kidding himself, because nothing ever stays the
same, and whether you choose to accept it or not, we are being pushed into a
whole new way of looking at, using, and designing applications.  The
Internet hasn't begun to reach a static point and maybe never will!  But I
believe NET was designed to fit the new paradigm of service contracts and
modular applications that can grow in ways we haven't even considered yet
and for which Microsoft and others will be able to create whole new ways of
supporting both the personal and commercial markets.  And with these "new"
ways will come equally new ways of charging us for these services that they
will ensure we cannot do without!      

from Robert Meek dba Tangentals Design  CCopyright 2006
Proud to be a moderator of "The Delphi Lists" at elists.org

(["An unused program is the consequence of a higher logic!", nil])  As
written in The Compendium of Accepted Robotic and Surrlogic Theorems Used in
the Self Analysis of Elemental Positronic Pathways...1st Edition Revised


-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of Cameron Cole
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 11:11 AM
To: Delphi-Talk Discussion List
Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: Delphi - current status and future?]

To me, the truth lies somewhere in between for Delphi.  Delphi is a great
WinForm language and its future is solid in that area.  It will never be a
Visual Studio sized product and large development shops will probably stop
using it, but it will live on.  People still work in FoxPro and it hasn't
seen a good step forward in a decade or so.  "VB Classic" will still be
around 5+ years from now and it has been shuned by Microsoft which to me is
another reason to avoid there product lines.  Who wants to learn C# be 7-8
years down the road and C$ comes out and doesn't support your C# apps?  Say
what you will about Borland and there HUGE marketing screwups, they never
abandond us to upgrade or die.

Developers are so caught up in the latest greatest.  Personally, I will move
when I see that C# can do it better and easier.  I write code in C# for a
few contract jobs, but I still perfer Delphi.  Delphi isn't clunky like C#
WinForms, it is blazing by comparison.  I like a lot of the changes in C#
from a programmer standpoint, but they are minor upgrades at best and case
sensitivity is a huge annoyance for me.  So when SQL Server finally moves
off of TSQL and to C# (which I think will eventually happen... probably in
2020), internet based apps offer the same speed and dependability of WinForm
apps or they finally write something meaningful in C# at Microsoft (Office,
Window or Visual Studio)  I will probably move to it myself.  As of right
now, no customer of mine asks... what is this interface written in?  As of
right now, our largest competitors write their apps in FoxPro, COBOL and
FoxPro (yep two FoxPro apps).  I haven't seen a C# app on the horizon and I
don't think as a language it will bring any additional end user features
that we don't or can't already provide.  Interestingly, we are one of the
few internet based apps in our market and we built ours years ago using Fat
Client front ends with Thin Client  architecture which is now all the rage
in C# land.

It will take a lot more code out there in .NET land before I move off of one
of the greatest sources of free powerful code bases known to me.  It is rare
that I can't find some snippit of code for free in Delphi and pretty rare to
find a good one in C#.  It was and is a community of devotees that actually
know how to code and whose philiosophy is very open.  This is in strike
contrast to Microsofts closed world.

All IMO of course.


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