We seem to be in the grip of the same catharsis as last year...
Like D4, imho, the productivity stuff is the major move. The versioning tool
looks good (including to-do lists) will help team productivity - as well as
the ADO stuff will make my life easier. Just the lack of code navigation
capabilities in D3 frustrate me on the occasions I have to work with it. A
lot of the flakey stuff, from D4, has been debugged - there's more debugging
stuff, like "attach to process". I haven't played with the com-server stuff
but driving ms-office should be easier too. Likewise the data-module
designer looks useful, it's one of the areas where not everyone seems to
find good design easy.
Personally I think D3 - D5 is a compelling upgrade, with the intermediate
steps less so. Borland position Delphi as a Rapid Development tool, read
Steve McConnell's sequel to Code Complete for a good definition, and, again
imho, that's what each subsequent release has delivered on.
I've been through the same costing exercise, that I posted to the list 12
months ago when the same things were being said about D4, and the numbers
are still the same. If what you want is a productivity tool with good
technology, ie time-to-market etc, then Delphi has a lot to offer. If what
you want is technology only - then I agree - there are other more
cost-effective options.
The bottom line is that I can make more $ with D5, than it costs me, so the
cost-benefit equation works out. If it didn't I'd just not buy it.
Max
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of Phil Scadden
Sent: Thursday, 16 September 1999 08:52
To: Multiple recipients of list DELphi
Subject: Re: [DUG]: ANN: Delphi 5 shipping in NZ
> Just someone mentoned adjusted prices and I wondered if perhaps the
> somewhat
> unrealistic 3.5K Upgrade price for some thing that apperntly has little
new
> to offer, but supposedly addresses the bugs in D4. Considering that D4 is
> only one year old, its one hell of a price!
>
> Guesse I'l sit this one out.
We decided to sit on 3 and wait for 5 because of just such outrageous prices
for D4.
After hearing of D4's problems, I am glad we did. Given D3 stability, its
still hard to
work up a business case for D5 C/S. The things in D3 C/S that made it sound
attractive turned out to be mostly 3rd party stuff that worked badly. The
exception
being SQL-link. With so many BDE alternatives for native access, that is no
longer an issue. I think we have to look hard now at just D5 professional
with
add-ons for specific functionality that I need.
same.
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