Mmmm, interesting idea.
Question, why is this idea more attractive to you than the existing purchase
system?
Answer (IMO), because you think our proposed system would end up cheaper for
you. And you are probably right - after all you can probably develop fine
without needing most of these things you suggest Borland offer via the web.
After all you (and I) probably do fine without these services right now (we
manage our own source control, backups etc). So if the developers think this
plan would cost us much less money then how are Borland go to end up making
more money out of it?
Basically I'm yet to be sold on any sort of subscription web services. IMO
technically advanced people (which developers usually are) like to have
things run just the way they want them, and web services seem to involve too
many compromises.
Just my 2c of course!
David.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Martin Paulo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Multiple recipients of list delphi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 2:30 PM
Subject: RE: [DUG]: Delphi 6 and proposed release structure
> As one option, why not try free products?
>
> Note: free, not open source.
>
> How do they survive by giving away free tools? The free editions have
hooks
> into a Borland run web service that offers Source Forge style cross
platform
> software development support.
>
> You want version control: sure - that will be $20 per month per developer.
> You want task management: add another $50 per month per developer.
> You want off site backups: add another $20 per month per developer.
> You want on site training: oh, about another $800 per person per day.
> You want defect management: oh, about another $60 per developer per month
> for the basic service...
> etc...
>
> They could even offer free hosting (again copying source forge) for open
> source development using their 'free' tools.
>
> It is fully buzzword compliant solution: ASP, Web Service, Hosted
> application, open source sponsorship, .NET compliant etc...
>
> Not only that, as free the tools are of such a high quality they would
> attract developers in droves. I am sure that if the services were
structured
> correctly they would soon be milking more than a measly $8000 per seat per
> 24 months from the large corporate clients. And the large clients would be
> loving every last dollar spent too! Not only that, the cash would be
coming
> in in the subscription model much loved by Microsoft - not in spurts every
> now and then. This should keep the accountants and stock holders happy!
>
> Doing this would be a chance for them to gain dominance in the development
> tools market - a dominance that even Microsoft would struggle to
challenge.
> Once we are hooked into a site like this it will be very, very hard to
move.
> Especially as tools such as Delphi are 'proprietary'. This would also
solve
> the problem of us poor third world developers not being able to afford the
> tools!
>
> Borrowing from Microsoft, they can allow free downloads of the tools, but
> charge $20 for 'handling' if you want a copy on CD. Ah - you like paper
> books? You can print your own from the PDF manuals or simply send us $60
for
> a copy.
>
> My imagination is running rampant here. I think I'd better stop.
>
> Just remember - you heard it here first!
>
> Martin
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, 11 May 2001 1:44 p.m.
> > To: Multiple recipients of list delphi
> > Subject: [DUG]: Delphi 6 and proposed release structure
> >
> >
> > Hi all,
> > Would you be more influence to upgrade if the period between
> > versions was
> > greater. I personally think 12 to 18 months is too short.
> > What if the
> > major release version was at least 24 months apart. After
> > about a year you
> > got say a .5 release and there were more maintenance releases
> > that fixed
> > errors in the interim. All these releases being free of
> > course. I don't
> > like how borland won't make additions to the product in maintenance
> > releases. Maybe further enhancements would become available in the .5
> > release. A possible structure could be
> > Delphi 6 release
> > 3 months Delphi 6.01 released
> > 6 months Delphi 6.02 released (if it is like Delphi 4 that is!)
> > 12 months Delphi 6.5 released - This release would add new
> > functionality
> > and even updated interfaces for OTAPI's.
> > 18 months Delphi 6.51 released
> > 24 months or more Delphi 7 released.
> > I think this would be better. What do others think?
> >
> > JED
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