I agree 100% with what you're saying about the advantages of good OO etc, and that a lot of Delphi developers are RAD not OO devs.
However, I think Richard phrased things badly yesterday, and (I may be wrong), but he basically said that if one wanted to do OO development, one wouldn't choose Delphi. I disagree with that sentiment, and I thought he was overly negative about Delphi as a language. There are quite a few people out there doing things like OPFs for Delphi, which really make it feasible to do good OO stuff in Delphi. Just thought the whole presentation could have been better handled - I'm sure Richard is a fine developer/consultant in his own right... Cheers, Conor -----Original Message----- From: Andreas Toth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 5 September 2002 1:53 p.m. To: Multiple recipients of list delphi Subject: RE: [DUG]: Delphi 8 ? Richard is a real character -- a good one. But he's right about Delphi and OO. The majority of Delphi developers are RAD not OO developers. There's quite a difference and he knows it since he's been caught out himself. RAD may be fast but it's not maintainable like good OO. -Andreas -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Conor Boyd Sent: Thursday, 5 September 2002 13:36 To: Multiple recipients of list delphi Subject: RE: [DUG]: Delphi 8 ? I agree about feeling a bit insulted. I felt I didn't really learn much about D7 yesterday, which surprised me. I haven't met Richard before, but I felt that he would have lost a lot of people during yesterday's demo. I felt I only followed what he was doing, because I'd looked at both Modelmaker & Bold. I've seen Borland sales support staff in Oz do much better presentations. I've heard a lot of people rave (no pun or reference to reporting engines intended!) about Bold, especially in borland.public.delphi.oodesign We'll probably skip D6 & D7 and wait for Delphi.NET Cheers, Conor -----Original Message----- From: Robert Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] We went from D4 to D6. XP support would be one of the few features we could use. The .Net stuff seems far too transient to spend time coding for, we use Crystal reports and do OO already. I think calling all Delphi users non OO developers was a bit of an insult, VB (6 and below) programmers do GUIs for databases, delphi is so much more. re Bold, it was nice that it automatically handled persistence and data display for the user but seemed it could be somewhat inflexible. After John's excellent presentation of D6 I was somewhat disappointed by the presentation, did we really need to see Linux boot but not do anything with it? --------------------------------------------------------------------------- New Zealand Delphi Users group - Delphi List - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://www.delphi.org.nz To UnSub, send email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] with body of "unsubscribe delphi" Web Archive at: http://www.mail-archive.com/delphi%40delphi.org.nz/ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- New Zealand Delphi Users group - Delphi List - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://www.delphi.org.nz To UnSub, send email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] with body of "unsubscribe delphi" Web Archive at: http://www.mail-archive.com/delphi%40delphi.org.nz/ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- New Zealand Delphi Users group - Delphi List - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://www.delphi.org.nz To UnSub, send email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] with body of "unsubscribe delphi" Web Archive at: http://www.mail-archive.com/delphi%40delphi.org.nz/
