Thanks for the clarification.
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Jolyon Smith <jsm...@deltics.co.nz> wrote: > No - the original remark was "on page 53" too. > > It was a *comment* responding to a *comment*. Not a blog post. > > Paul misrepresented me as having blogged this. I didn't. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz] On > Behalf Of Jeremy North > Sent: Friday, 16 October 2009 3:47 p.m. > To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List > Subject: Re: [DUG] Has Malcolm Groves Been Misrepresented? > > So you made the remark on the front page and hid the "apology" on the > 53rd page amongst the classifieds. > > Hardly a credible thing to do. > > > On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 1:17 PM, Jolyon Smith <jsm...@deltics.co.nz> wrote: >> I also went on – in a subsequent comment – to say that things that Malcom >> didn’t seem to consider were that big, *were* in fact very noteworthy and >> worthwhile additions, imho. >> >> >> >> I think the actual position is somewhere between the two views. >> >> >> >> i.e. Delphi 2010 *is* more than just a “bug fix”, but it’s not as *major* > a >> release in terms of headline features that 2009 was, for example. >> >> >> >> Perhaps Malcolm simply didn’t express that particularly well in Auckland. >> (there’s a danger that since people often complain that bugs don’t get >> fixed, attention is then drawn to “how many bugs we fixed” which then >> distracts away from “how much of, and how big, the new stuff is” – I was >> commenting on the perception that I felt Malcolm conveyed, not agreeing > that >> that perception was necessarily correct). >> >> >> >> I myself was perhaps not clear enough on that point (the observations were >> in comments, not a blog post – I spend more time on posts than on > comments) >> >> >> >> >> >> From: delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz] > On >> Behalf Of Paul A Norman >> Sent: Friday, 16 October 2009 2:59 p.m. >> To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List >> Subject: [DUG] Has Malcolm Groves Been Misrepresented? >> >> >> >> I was not at the Auckland presentation, and have had to rely on others' >> reporting of it. Jolyon who normally appears to be very careful in what he >> says and writes has said on his blog: >> >> >> >> "Malcolm Groves stood up in Auckland and openly told us that in his view, >> apart from 1 or 2 things, and really in *his* opinion only 1, Delphi 2010 >> was basically a bug fix release with lots of little tweaks here and there. >> They charged full price for it of course and won’t be retrofitting those > bug >> fixes to Delphi 2009 or 2007 (where they would be of most use). >> >> >> >> "I stress – that’s not my characterisation of the release as not > delivering >> much in the way of “new stuff”, it was his. >> >> >> >> "David" wrote on Jolyon's blog: >> >> >> >> "While I usually agree with you Jolyon I don’t feel Malcolm Groves told us >> Delphi 10 was mainly just bug fixes. What he did say was that there were >> only one or two big killer features but there were hundreds of small >> improvements. Some of these small improvements were no doubt bug fixes, > but >> many are enhancements and new features which from the sound of it really >> improve the IDE." >> >> >> >> Please, Jolyon, David and any one who was there, what is what? -- Because >> like a lot of people, my decisions on ongoing use and purchase of Delphi >> very much depends on whether you have to factor in the next version as a >> paid for bug fix or not, on what you buy. >> >> >> >> Paul >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list >> Post: delphi@delphi.org.nz >> Admin: http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi >> Unsubscribe: send an email to delphi-requ...@delphi.org.nz with Subject: >> unsubscribe >> > > _______________________________________________ > NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list > Post: delphi@delphi.org.nz > Admin: http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi > Unsubscribe: send an email to delphi-requ...@delphi.org.nz with Subject: > unsubscribe > > > _______________________________________________ > NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list > Post: delphi@delphi.org.nz > Admin: http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi > Unsubscribe: send an email to delphi-requ...@delphi.org.nz with Subject: > unsubscribe > _______________________________________________ NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list Post: delphi@delphi.org.nz Admin: http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi Unsubscribe: send an email to delphi-requ...@delphi.org.nz with Subject: unsubscribe