Jolyon - not worth pursuing - it was your blog and you were writing on it. I leave it there.
Paul 2009/10/16 Jeremy North <jeremy.no...@gmail.com> > Thanks for the clarification. > > > On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Jolyon Smith <jsm...@deltics.co.nz> > wrote: > > No - the original remark was "on page 53" too. > > > > It was a *comment* responding to a *comment*. Not a blog post. > > > > Paul misrepresented me as having blogged this. I didn't. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz] > On > > Behalf Of Jeremy North > > Sent: Friday, 16 October 2009 3:47 p.m. > > To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List > > Subject: Re: [DUG] Has Malcolm Groves Been Misrepresented? > > > > So you made the remark on the front page and hid the "apology" on the > > 53rd page amongst the classifieds. > > > > Hardly a credible thing to do. > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 1:17 PM, Jolyon Smith <jsm...@deltics.co.nz> > wrote: > >> I also went on – in a subsequent comment – to say that things that > Malcom > >> didn’t seem to consider were that big, *were* in fact very noteworthy > and > >> worthwhile additions, imho. > >> > >> > >> > >> I think the actual position is somewhere between the two views. > >> > >> > >> > >> i.e. Delphi 2010 *is* more than just a “bug fix”, but it’s not as > *major* > > a > >> release in terms of headline features that 2009 was, for example. > >> > >> > >> > >> Perhaps Malcolm simply didn’t express that particularly well in > Auckland. > >> (there’s a danger that since people often complain that bugs don’t get > >> fixed, attention is then drawn to “how many bugs we fixed” which then > >> distracts away from “how much of, and how big, the new stuff is” – I was > >> commenting on the perception that I felt Malcolm conveyed, not agreeing > > that > >> that perception was necessarily correct). > >> > >> > >> > >> I myself was perhaps not clear enough on that point (the observations > were > >> in comments, not a blog post – I spend more time on posts than on > > comments) > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> From: delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz > ] > > On > >> Behalf Of Paul A Norman > >> Sent: Friday, 16 October 2009 2:59 p.m. > >> To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List > >> Subject: [DUG] Has Malcolm Groves Been Misrepresented? > >> > >> > >> > >> I was not at the Auckland presentation, and have had to rely on others' > >> reporting of it. Jolyon who normally appears to be very careful in what > he > >> says and writes has said on his blog: > >> > >> > >> > >> "Malcolm Groves stood up in Auckland and openly told us that in his > view, > >> apart from 1 or 2 things, and really in *his* opinion only 1, Delphi > 2010 > >> was basically a bug fix release with lots of little tweaks here and > there. > >> They charged full price for it of course and won’t be retrofitting those > > bug > >> fixes to Delphi 2009 or 2007 (where they would be of most use). > >> > >> > >> > >> "I stress – that’s not my characterisation of the release as not > > delivering > >> much in the way of “new stuff”, it was his. > >> > >> > >> > >> "David" wrote on Jolyon's blog: > >> > >> > >> > >> "While I usually agree with you Jolyon I don’t feel Malcolm Groves told > us > >> Delphi 10 was mainly just bug fixes. What he did say was that there were > >> only one or two big killer features but there were hundreds of small > >> improvements. Some of these small improvements were no doubt bug fixes, > > but > >> many are enhancements and new features which from the sound of it really > >> improve the IDE." > >> > >> > >> > >> Please, Jolyon, David and any one who was there, what is what? -- > Because > >> like a lot of people, my decisions on ongoing use and purchase of Delphi > >> very much depends on whether you have to factor in the next version as a > >> paid for bug fix or not, on what you buy. > >> > >> > >> > >> Paul > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list > >> Post: delphi@delphi.org.nz > >> Admin: http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi > >> Unsubscribe: send an email to delphi-requ...@delphi.org.nz with > Subject: > >> unsubscribe > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list > > Post: delphi@delphi.org.nz > > Admin: http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi > > Unsubscribe: send an email to delphi-requ...@delphi.org.nz with Subject: > > unsubscribe > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list > > Post: delphi@delphi.org.nz > > Admin: http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi > > Unsubscribe: send an email to delphi-requ...@delphi.org.nz with Subject: > unsubscribe > > > > _______________________________________________ > NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list > Post: delphi@delphi.org.nz > Admin: http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi > Unsubscribe: send an email to delphi-requ...@delphi.org.nz with Subject: > unsubscribe >
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