That sneak preview page says it creates a full Android (Java) solution so presumably that means it creates Java code which will run on any Android supporting Java.
From: delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz] On Behalf Of Jolyon Smith Sent: Monday, 29 November 2010 5:45 PM To: 'NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List' Subject: Re: [DUG] DelphiDroid Well, that's exactly my point... "native" means compiled to machine code, in which case you need to say code for *which* machine... For a more concrete example: The Delphi compiler does not target the "IBM PC" - it targets Intel x86. It also targets Windows on x86, but let us imagine that Windows was still NT and that NT still supported ALPHA hardware. Delphi "targets" Windows, but it does not produce ALPHA executables since it only targets x86. To say that Delphi targets Windows is not sufficient - you have to say "Windows x86". So when you say "targets Android", this doesn't appear to be sufficient information to be a reliable indication of any meaningful, intent, just highly speculative spit-balling ("Ya know, with this new compiler architecture we (or "they") could support Android..."). I would be interested to know where you heard the speculation... the source can be significant in ascertaining the reliability of some messages... J From: delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz] On Behalf Of Alister Christie Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2010 17:10 To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List Subject: Re: [DUG] DelphiDroid >From what I heard it will be native - although all I've heard are rumors - certainly no statement of intent. Alister Christie Computers for People Ph: 04 471 1849 Fax: 04 471 1266 http://www.salespartner.co.nz PO Box 13085 Johnsonville Wellington On 29/11/2010 4:19 p.m., Jolyon Smith wrote: Is that Android 1.5? 1.6? 2.1? 2.2? Or will it be 3.0? Apart from that, isn't a "target" for a compiler a bit more than just an OS/platform/framework ... ? If Delphi is to "target" Android then it must target the CPU architectures that Android itself runs on (with iPhone the distinction is blurred since only one phone hardware platform runs the OS - iPhone the OS is iPhone the hardware, to intents and purposes). Android might be running on (currently) ARM-Cortex A7, A8, or A9 (as far as I can tell - I am not an Android owner or otherwise particularly interested in Android, so this is based on a few mins with my learned friend, Mr Google J) From: delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz] On Behalf Of Alister Christie Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2010 14:11 To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List Subject: Re: [DUG] DelphiDroid My understanding is that both Android and iPhone are being actively experimented with as targets for the compiler. We'll probably hear more once we have OS/X, Win64 and Linux support, which I suspect that it would be at last 2 years away Alister Christie Computers for People Ph: 04 471 1849 Fax: 04 471 1266 http://www.salespartner.co.nz PO Box 13085 Johnsonville Wellington On 29/11/2010 1:40 p.m., David Brennan wrote: I think Jolyon is right. The difference between a proof of concept (which is basically what the guy has now) and a robust tool which handles the majority of Delphi features and libraries is enormous. Several orders of magnitude sounds about right to me (meaning 100-1000 times more difficult, or even more). I agree with the general principle though that being able to build for Android (and/or iPhone and others) would be great. However I think the only way it could really be done in a decent way is by Embarcadero continuing to extend the back end compiler to support more and more target platforms. They have made a few references in recent times which suggest they hope to do this but only time will tell. Cheers, David. From: delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz] On Behalf Of Jeremy Coulter Sent: Monday, 29 November 2010 1:23 p.m. To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List Subject: Re: [DUG] Company closing you should download it and make it do more then :-) jeremy On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Jolyon Smith <jsm...@deltics.co.nz> wrote: Is it a compiler? Technically I mean - I'd call it a translator. :) I wonder how far it can go though, beyond the simple examples I mean. Translating a push button and a call to ShowMessage() is one thing. Being able to translate a complex application with all the libraries that Android must support strikes me as a number of orders of magnitude more complex. -----Original Message----- From: delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz] On Behalf Of Alister Christie Sent: Monday, 29 November 2010 12:39 To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List Subject: Re: [DUG] Company closing Interestingly the compiler is written in C# Alister Christie Computers for People Ph: 04 471 1849 Fax: 04 471 1266 http://www.salespartner.co.nz PO Box 13085 Johnsonville Wellington On 29/11/2010 12:08 p.m., John Bird wrote: > ?http://lenniedevilliers.blogspot.com/2010/09/delphi-for-android-sneak-previ <http://lenniedevilliers.blogspot.com/2010/09/delphi-for-android-sneak-previ %0Aew.html> ew.html > > Just checked out the DelphiDroid - not sure what state its at but simple > examples are at least working - see a sneak peek video at the above address. > Says been tested with "Delphi 6.0, 7.0, 2005, 2006 and 2010." > > This is exactly the sort of tools we need - why does Embarcadero not jump > onto this asap??? > > > John > > _______________________________________________ > NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list > Post: delphi@delphi.org.nz > Admin: http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi > Unsubscribe: send an email to delphi-requ...@delphi.org.nz with Subject: unsubscribe > > _______________________________________________ NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list Post: delphi@delphi.org.nz Admin: http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi Unsubscribe: send an email to delphi-requ...@delphi.org.nz with Subject: unsubscribe _______________________________________________ NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list Post: delphi@delphi.org.nz Admin: http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi Unsubscribe: send an email to delphi-requ...@delphi.org.nz with Subject: unsubscribe _______________________________________________ NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list Post: delphi@delphi.org.nz Admin: http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi Unsubscribe: send an email to delphi-requ...@delphi.org.nz with Subject: unsubscribe _______________________________________________ NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi mailing list Post: delphi@delphi.org.nz Admin: http://delphi.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/delphi Unsubscribe: send an email to delphi-requ...@delphi.org.nz with Subject: unsubscribe
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