Good answer but wrong question :-)

On 14/03/2011, at 10:27 AM, Jolyon Smith <jsm...@deltics.co.nz> wrote:

> I am guessing that the “certain turnover” you have in mind is significantly 
> higher than the US$1000 revenue limit attached to “Starter” Edition.
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> If you do the math on those license terms, basically Embarcadero want your 
> first $1000 revenue for themselves – they take a $200 down payment then grab 
> the next $800 as soon as you earn it, taking you over the $1000 limit 
> triggering the point at which you then have to pay to upgrade to “Pro”, which 
> will cost you 100% of that $800 you just earned.
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> So you better be sure of earning not just that initial $1000, but AT LEAST 
> $270/annum thereafter if you want to stay current (that’s what your “Revenue 
> Assurance”, ahem, I mean “Software Assurance” will cost you).  Oops, 
> actually, you’ll need to earn $1270, since when you upgrade from Starter to 
> Pro you’ll need an additional $270 for your initial Revenue Assurance payment.
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> Imho this renders Starter Edition dead in the water for the open 
> source/community/hobby developers that Embarcadero claim to be aiming it at, 
> for whom revenue is a potentially sporadic and uncertain thing.... someone 
> could *easily* “earn” over $1000 in the first year then significantly less 
> than that thereafter.  You don’t get to deduct any costs from these revenue 
> numbers, so even if everything you “earn” from Delphi gets sunk into 
> hosting/traffic costs for providing your work to the community etc, 
> Embarcadero don’t care – it’s not profit they are counting, only 
> income/revenue.
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> If they absolutely had to have a revenue threshold (as some sort of 
> corporate/enterprise licensing woobie blanket) , it should have been nearer 
> $5K or even $10K.
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> imho
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> From: delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz] On 
> Behalf Of Steve Peacocke
> Sent: Monday, 14 March 2011 09:42
> To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
> Subject: Re: [DUG] Access to street maps
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> I was the Product Marketing Manager for the company that, up to a few months 
> ago, used to supply the data to Google Maps.
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> Yes, essentially you are right and Google have not really worked very hard at 
> gaining revenue from that source, however that time will come and it is 
> important to know where you stand. Essentially, once you have turnover, then 
> you will need to purchase commercial licences but hopefully that will mean 
> that you are making lots of money. - Google will want some that money.
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> Actually, I think that its a great commercial licence. I only wish Delphi and 
> some toolmakers used the same licence. I'd love to develop stuff using, for 
> example the latest Delphi and Woll2Woll's InfoPower tools but I just can't 
> justify the licence cost until I get over a certain turnover, THEN I could 
> buy them.
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> Steve Peacocke
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> On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 9:33 AM, Jeremy Coulter <jscoul...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> bah.....just tick "I agree" dont read it....then you can plead 
> ignorance...hehehe
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> Yeah its only free if you are not going to make $$ from it and not going to 
> have 50,000 hits a day.....pretty much....but do read the terms just incase 
> ;-)
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> Jeremy
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> On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 9:08 AM, Steve Peacocke <st...@peacocke.net> wrote:
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> Caution - Please review the terms of service for yourself. It's only free in 
> certain circumstances.
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> Steve Peacocke
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> On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 9:06 AM, Jeremy Coulter <jscoul...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> yip its free. You just have to register with them to access the Google API 
> docs etc. I dont know why. Maybe they just want to add your details to their 
> database :-)
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> Jeremy
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> On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 8:45 AM, Leigh Wanstead <leigh.wanst...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
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> Hi Jeremy,
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> May I ask to use google maps service is free?
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> TIA
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> Regards
> Leigh
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> 2011/3/14 Jeremy Coulter <jscoul...@gmail.com>
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> The other thing to note too if you want to use Google Maps to display 
> locations you need to signup and get a key that you need to pass through each 
> time you make a call which is fine if you will only be calling it from the 
> same location as it is tied to a Domain name.
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> We do exactly what you are doing to show surgery locations and various other 
> things at work. Took a bit of time to figure it out, but it works well.
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> Also something interesting I noticed the other day. My wife was using Wises 
> online the other day, I noticed they use Google now too...any why not ;-)
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> Jeremy
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> From: delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz [mailto:delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz] On 
> Behalf Of Steve Peacocke
> Sent: Monday, 14 March 2011 07:28
> To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
> Subject: Re: [DUG] Access to street maps
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> Hi Mark,
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> You will need to change the address to the XY coordinates in order to display 
> the map. Yes, all is possible using JavaScript and the Google Maps API.
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> http://code.google.com/apis/maps/index.html
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> http://code.google.com/apis/maps/documentation/javascript/
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> Steve Peacocke
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> On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 7:22 AM, mark <w...@kol.co.nz> wrote:
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> I have a D2009 application which holds the addresses of employees and the 
> customers they service.
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> Is there a way that I can display a map with a selected address?
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> Ideally, I would also like to be able to get the distance between two 
> addresses.
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> I assume that this information is available from Google or Wises, but have no 
> idea how to go about accessing it. I’m guessing it will be a Web Service, 
> with which I have limited experience (I have an interface to one).
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> Any pointers in the right direction would be appreciated.
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> Mark
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