Please don't think I'm putting a damper on this thread as I think
it's a great idea and for what little I might be worth I'd be more than
willing to help out if something could be put together?!  However this topic
is a bit "off" for the Delphi List and should really be moved to Delphi-Talk
where it would be more suitable.  The Delphi List is for technical topics
only whereas Delphi-Talk is pretty open provided it has some reference to
Delphi.  Thanx. 

from Robert Meek dba Tangentals Design
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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Alan Colburn
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 5:45 PM
To: Borland's Delphi Discussion List
Subject: Setting Up Instructor & Course

Well, as you can see, there could be at least some interest in an
instructor-led Delphi course. It seems like Eddie and/or Dr. Bob would be
interested in setting something up; either could probably do a fine job.
Maybe you should both do it :-)

I'm not exactly sure where to go next, but I'll offer a couple thoughts. I'm
certainly willing to help  a little bit and to lend my 2 cents worth, but it
would ultimately not be my project ... I want to be the one *enrolled* in
the course, not putting it together :-)

Perhaps it would be best to start with something fairly small, like six
weeks, and see how it goes.

In this brave new world of eLearning there's at least two ways you could set
things up. First, you could create your own course management system on the
web--there's open source stuff out there that works fine. You would need a
way to deliver content to students (including the possibility of sending
materials through the mail or telling people to buy something commercially
available). Content could include not only text but also other media, e.g.,
flash demonstrations of how to do something (I'd love to hear lectures,
while watching how to do things a la Camtasia Studio presentations ... but
that's just me). You'll also need ways to keep in close contact with your
students (like e-mail), and for students to be able to keep in contact with
each other--esp. if they would be expected to work together. I think some
folks in the position of leading this sort of thing might have students post
everything (other than homework) in a public discussion-list style forum, so
responses are visible to everyone. Finally, you'll want an easy way for
students to submit projects to you. One could get by with something as
simple as a password protected website, e-mail, and public discussion group,
though typical courses are set up in slightly more sophisticated ways. You
also need a way to accept people's money :-)

The second way to set up a course management system would be to offer a
class/workshop through some other organized provider. My own university
allows for such things through its extension services--participants pay
tuition to the university, the instructor gets to use the university's
infrastructure (course management system, server, etc.), and the instructor
gets a cut of the money that comes in. It's like you would have outsourced
all the non-instructional tasks, in exchange for the university taking a
large cut of the proceeds. If one of you decided to pursue this latter
option, via my university, I could make the initial contacts for you and
gather more info.

To those of you who mentioned resources like delphi.about.com, yes, I'm
quite familiar with them. It's a terrific site ... but I'm looking for
something a little different, with the guidance and interaction you get in a
real course.

Finally, as far as topics could go, I'm a little less certain. My own
interests lie in developing general applications as freeware/shareware +
education-related apps, so I think it would be fun and valuable to have a
course centered on creating basic versions of common types of applications
from scratch, via Delphi, e.g., word processor, web browser, e-mail client,
spreadsheet, etc. But that's just me ... People with aspirations of working
for someone else, for example, need to understand a whole lot about
databases ... and then there's things like component creation, more on OOP,
or working with the Windows API, or ..? 

I hope this is enough to get someone started. Think also about where you
could, essentially, advertise to get students. And think about all that
money you might make--especially after you've taught your workshop a couple
times & the effort on your part has decreased a lot!

Let me know when I should register :-)

Al



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