On might also raise the issue about decompiling.. C# apps can be decompiled into readable c# code, Java too, but you cant decompile a Delphi app. into anything thats of much use. That there is a security issue for C# and Java IMHO.
Jeremy On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 11:45 PM, David Brennan <[email protected]> wrote: > We've had questions along those lines before. My usual answer is that > there is no way we would even attempt to write our software in Java and C# > wasn't around when we started. Switching to C# would be an option but for > our software there are few obvious benefits to doing so. The main one would > be a larger pool of developers to hire from but we almost always hire > graduates anyway so that doesn't affect us much. Conversely there could be > some downsides in that our software is quite computationally intensive and > while C# can be fairly heavily optimised these days it is an unknown > whether it would be able to match Delphi for our workload. I might also > bring up C++ by saying that in some ways C++ would be a more suitable tool > for our sort of software but we believe Delphi to be much more productive > and much better for GUIs. > > At which point in the conversation I say that since there is no obvious > benefit in changing to another language and there would be an absolutely > massive cost involved (without even getting into the mantra as espoused by > Joel Spolsky that you should *never* do a full re-write) it really isn't an > issue for us. If necessary I also make the point that C# was designed by > the same guy (Anders Heijlsberg) who led the design of Delphi and at core > they solve similar problems in similar ways. > > However we are fortunate that we are usually selling to the business > rather than the IT department, so the business makes their decision based > on the functionality we can offer rather than the IT department deciding. > For software which is sold primarily to IT departments it could be a > slightly harder discussion, but even so, unless they can point out specific > problems with not having some particular software written in C# it is all > rather woolly and speculative on their part. > > I will be interested to see what Malcolm comes back with though. > > Cheers, > David. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul Hectors > Sent: Thursday, 29 January 2015 4:38 p.m. > To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List > Subject: Re: [DUG] iOS 64bit > > +1 > > My recent experience is that corporates do not like it when you inform > them that your application is written in Delphi, it is perceived as old and > a security risk. It would be nice if there was a white paper or some > material to reassure them. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Cameron Hart > Sent: Thursday, 29 January 2015 1:50 p.m. > To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List > Subject: Re: [DUG] iOS 64bit > > Hi Malcolm > > We regularly get questioned on our use of Delphi versus Microsoft C# when > responding to RFPs. The market has a perception that if it's not Java of > C# then it is old technology (I doubt if I drilled into it with anyone > whether they would be able to articulate why they think that). This > creates a barrier to sale in some cases. > > Are you or someone in your team able to provide any sound bites regarding > Delphi versus C#/Java that we can use when responding > > thanks > > > Cameron Hart > > Flow Software Limited > > > > > > PO Box 302 768, North Harbour > > P > +64 9 476 3569 > > > Auckland 0751, New Zealand > > M > +64 21 222 3569 > > > www.flowsoftware.co.nz > > E > [email protected] > > > This message is intended for the addressee named above. It may contain > privileged or confidential information. 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