All of this discussion and its not even Friday afternoon! :)

Stacey

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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven Knight
> Sent: Thursday, 5 August 2004 16:25
> To: 'NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List'
> Subject: RE: [DUG] Welcome back problem
> 
> 
> I like it. Option C contains 2 possibilities
> C: Got the car this time, the presenter shows that there is a 
> goat behind door 2 (or 3) Stay - Car Swap - Goat
> 
> or look at it this way:
> The combination matrix is actually like this: (With 2 goats)
> 
> G1 G2 C
> G2 G1 C
> G1 C  G2
> G2 C  G1
> C  G1 G2
> C  G2 G1
> 
> 
> Your change of being right first time is ~.333
> I follows that the presenter has a probability ~.666 of 
> having to eliminate the second goat.
> 
> So swap to the ~.666 probability
> 
> 
> 
> > > I thought I had a good explination
> > >
> > > Here is my table again
> > > A: G G C
> > > B: G C G
> > > C: C G G
> > >
> > > A: represents Goat behind doors 1 & 2 and Car behind Door 3
> > >
> > > Lets continue to assume that we still always pick door number 1
> > >
> > > A:  We've chosen a goat (however we don't know this).  
> The presenter 
> > > will now tell us that there is a goat behind door 2.  What
> > happens if we
> > > stay or swap?
> > > Stay - Goat
> > > Swap - Car
> > >
> > > B: Still chosen a goat, the presenter shows us that there 
> is a goat 
> > > behind door number 3.  And again here is what happens if we
> > stay or swap.
> > > Stay - Goat
> > > Swap - Car
> > >
> > > C: Got the car this time, the presenter shows that there 
> is a goat 
> > > behind door 2 (or 3) Stay - Car
> > > Swap - Goat
> > >
> > > So if we stay we get Goat, Goat, Car, thus 1 out of 3 times
> > we get the
> > car.
> > >
> > > If we swap we get Car, Car, Goat - 2 out of 3 times we 
> get the car.
> > >
> > > The same arguments apply if we initially chose door 2 or door 3.
> > >
> > > I hope this explination makes things clearer.  I think the main 
> > > confusion is from trying to assign probabilities.  If I've missed 
> > > something and am wrong then will somebody explain my confusion in 
> > > language simple enough so that I can understand it ;-)
> > >
> > > However I think that the test applications also show that
> > the answer is
> > > correct even if my reasoning is wrong.
> > >
> > > Alister
> > >
> > >
> > > Paul M - ProSouth wrote:
> > > > Ok, if he opens door 2 to reveal the goat, we now know
> > that option B
> > (GCG)
> > > > is incorrect, leaving:
> > > >
> > > > A: G G C
> > > > C: C G G
> > > >
> > > > Again, a 50/50 scenario.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Paul Matthews
> > > > ProSouth Technology Solutions
> > > > Phone: +64 3 470 1321
> > > > DDI: +64 3 470 1324
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> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Stacey Verner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: "NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List" 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 2:11 PM
> > > > Subject: RE: [DUG] Welcome back problem
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>We aren't assuming that he opens door 3. He will open a
> > door with a
> > > >>goat, which in case A is door 2.
> > > >>
> > > >>Stacey
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>-----Original Message-----
> > > >>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > > >>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul
> > M - ProSouth
> > > >>>Sent: Thursday, 5 August 2004 14:03
> > > >>>To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List
> > > >>>Subject: Re: [DUG] Welcome back problem
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>What you are ignoring is the additional information.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>Using your matrix, the host opens door 3 to reveal a 
> goat. This 
> > > >>>now removes Option A, G G C, as being a
> > possibility, leaving:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>B: G C G
> > > >>>C: C G G
> > > >>>
> > > >>>There is now a 50% chance that the car is behind door 1 or 2.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>Regards,
> > > >>>
> > > >>>Paul Matthews
> > > >>>ProSouth Technology Solutions
> > > >>>Phone: +64 3 470 1321
> > > >>>DDI: +64 3 470 1324
> > > >>>0800 PROSOUTH (0800 776 768)
> > > >>>249 Cumberland Street, Dunedin, New Zealand
> > > >>>Visit us at www.prosouth.co.nz
> > > >>>
> > > >>>----- Original Message -----
> > > >>>From: "Alister Christie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >>>To: "NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List" 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >>>Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 1:36 PM
> > > >>>Subject: Re: [DUG] Welcome back problem
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>>There are 3 possible arrangements
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>A: G G C
> > > >>>>B: G C G
> > > >>>>C: C G G
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>if we assume that we choose door number 1 each time
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>in both A & B we have choosen incorrectly and switching
> > > >>>
> > > >>>will give us
> > > >>>
> > > >>>>the correct answer (presuming the presenter always
> > reveals a goat)
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>In C we have choosen correctly and if we switch we loose.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>So 2 out of 3 times if we switch we win, so I think
> > > >>>
> > > >>>switching is our
> > > >>>
> > > >>>>best bet.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>Alister
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